Colin Kaepernick

[ReplayRandall]

As a veteran of our Armed Forces, I have one question for Colin, "What have you sacrificed?".....You have sacrificed nothing, but you may use mine, to fully state your freedom of expression. I ask just one thing from you, "Never forget to acknowledge the VET."

[NJ Stinks]

Originally Posted by Tom

To hell with the NFL.

You better watch it. You are running out of things to like.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks

You better watch it. You are running out of things to like.

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[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by Tom

We have not heard from Michelle Obama, a known racist pig, on this yet.

Black kid gets taken in by White couple and raised
Black kid gets discovered by White agents and signed
Black kid gets employed by White owners and given generous salary and unlimited opportunity

So now he disrespects our nation and claims oppression.

Are ya proud of the country NOW, bitch?

Someone end his career on the field.....soon.

BTW, NFL is now obvious a racist organization.
The allow this pig to do his schtuick, they allow other players to run onto the field with arms up in a don't shoot mockery of something that never happened, but DENY the Cowboys request to wear a badge on their helmets to honor the 5 cops killed in Texas.

To hell with the NFL.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Tom

The allow this pig to do his schtuick, they allow other players to run onto the field with arms up in a don't shoot mockery of something that never happened, but DENY the Cowboys request to wear a badge on their helmets to honor the 5 cops killed in Texas.

They should put American flag decals on the helmets and see what he does then.

[johnhannibalsmith]

The guy has about hundred million ways to help make a difference fighting for the cause that he seems to believe in so vehemently when it comes to drawing attention to himself and engaging in symbolic silliness. But, no. Granted, I don't pay much attention to football and barely even know who the guy is, but I haven't read much about how he has actually used his vast resources and position of influence to advance this major problem in the general direction of a solution. Does he really think that this is any kind of help? Compared to what he could conceivably do that might could be productive? Do we really need some knucklehead "raising awareness" about a topic that you couldn't avoid if you went to another solar system? Fine, sit down. But, you might as well shut the **** up while you're there if you of all people can't bring more to the table than the same statements you can hear from 1,000 people a day in cities all across the country. Do something if it means that much to you and no, simply "raising awareness" doesn't count.

[burnsy]

Well. I served just so jerk waters could protest whatever they want to. That's what the flag means. Being a Libertarian I could give a shit. This is the big problem of the day? Where are we, Nazi Germany? People can do whatever the **** they want as long as its within the law. That's what I sacrificed for. People retaining their right to do whatever pleases them, whether I agree with it or not. Some people just don't get it, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. As soon as someone does something that people don't like......there's a hypocritical outrage. Who really gives a shit? Would people rather have the "thought police"?? He's not the problem, the piss ants with their noses up everyone's else's ass are. Boo hoo, its the end of the world. When the country walks lock step in agreement, like robots, goose necking the camera, like some want.....its truly over for us. That's what that flag stands for, doing whatever the hell you want legally, whether others like it or not. People are so reactionary and dumb, that goes right over their pee sized brains. It doesn't matter who served or not....its called freedom. That's what we are supposed to protect, in agreement or disagreement.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Do we really need some knucklehead "raising awareness" about a topic that you couldn't avoid if you went to another solar system? Fine, sit down. But, you might as well shut the **** up while you're there if you of all people can't bring more to the table than the same statements you can hear from 1,000 people a day in cities all across the country. Do something if it means that much to you and no, simply "raising awareness" doesn't count.

Asked about his problems with the country, he specifically talked about cops killing blacks. Rumor has it that he was recently engaged to a woman who is big in the Black Lives Matter movement. He was drafted by the 49ers in 2011, and now all of a sudden he is a political activist? Some guys will do anything to get laid.

And there is no evidence in the media of any activism on his part other than this big public stunt that came out of nowhere.

Those who defend his right of free speech for this should consider the fact that he is making a blanket condemnation of the entire country based on a tiny minority of cops shooting blacks, most of which were found to be justified. The right to free speech doesn't include the right to slander millions of good people.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Well, I don't consider myself slandered and don't really care if he stands or sits or lays down sideways. But, I can't take him seriously or view it as any kind of great noble gesture or some kind of powerful civil disobedience when it rings so hollow. He has succeeded in bringing attention to himself. Big deal. That makes him a Kardashian. If you are going to attract attention as a known figure with something to lose, attract it to a solution, a goal, a charity, and endeavor, something that makes it worth the effort so there is possibly something to gain also. Otherwise you are just attracting attention for the sake of attracting attention. And in this case, probably to nobody's benefit whatsoever.

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by burnsy

Well. I served just so jerk waters could protest whatever they want to. That's what the flag means. Being a Libertarian I could give a shit. This is the big problem of the day? Where are we, Nazi Germany? People can do whatever the **** they want as long as its within the law. That's what I sacrificed for. People retaining their right to do whatever pleases them, whether I agree with it or not. Some people just don't get it, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. As soon as someone does something that people don't like......there's a hypocritical outrage. Who really gives a shit? Would people rather have the "thought police"?? He's not the problem, the piss ants with their noses up everyone's else's ass are. Boo hoo, its the end of the world. When the country walks lock step in agreement, like robots, goose necking the camera, like some want.....its truly over for us. That's what that flag stands for, doing whatever the hell you want legally, whether others like it or not. People are so reactionary and dumb, that goes right over their pee sized brains. It doesn't matter who served or not....its called freedom. That's what we are supposed to protect, in agreement or disagreement.

Yep. That's real patriotism. Don't need a flag or a song about a battle in a war that never should have been fought, sung to the tune of an English drinking song to prove it. Being forced to comply to ceremony is not freedom, it is state sponsored religion, which i want nothing of.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by burnsy

Well. I served just so jerk waters could protest whatever they want to. That's what the flag means. Being a Libertarian I could give a shit. This is the big problem of the day? Where are we, Nazi Germany? People can do whatever the **** they want as long as its within the law. That's what I sacrificed for. People retaining their right to do whatever pleases them, whether I agree with it or not. Some people just don't get it, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. As soon as someone does something that people don't like......there's a hypocritical outrage. Who really gives a shit? Would people rather have the "thought police"?? He's not the problem, the piss ants with their noses up everyone's else's ass are. Boo hoo, its the end of the world. When the country walks lock step in agreement, like robots, goose necking the camera, like some want.....its truly over for us. That's what that flag stands for, doing whatever the hell you want legally, whether others like it or not. People are so reactionary and dumb, that goes right over their pee sized brains. It doesn't matter who served or not....its called freedom. That's what we are supposed to protect, in agreement or disagreement.

I don't think anybody is arguing that he didn't/doesn't have the right to do what he did. We are just exercising our right to call him a moron. Exercising one's rights are not free from consequences.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by burnsy

It doesn't matter who served or not....its called freedom. That's what we are supposed to protect, in agreement or disagreement.

It does matter that SOMEONE serves, or there's NO freedom.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by burnsy

Well. I served just so jerk waters could protest whatever they want to. That's what the flag means. Being a Libertarian I could give a shit. This is the big problem of the day? Where are we, Nazi Germany? People can do whatever the **** they want as long as its within the law. That's what I sacrificed for. People retaining their right to do whatever pleases them, whether I agree with it or not. Some people just don't get it, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. As soon as someone does something that people don't like......there's a hypocritical outrage. Who really gives a shit? Would people rather have the "thought police"?? He's not the problem, the piss ants with their noses up everyone's else's ass are. Boo hoo, its the end of the world. When the country walks lock step in agreement, like robots, goose necking the camera, like some want.....its truly over for us. That's what that flag stands for, doing whatever the hell you want legally, whether others like it or not. People are so reactionary and dumb, that goes right over their pee sized brains. It doesn't matter who served or not....its called freedom. That's what we are supposed to protect, in agreement or disagreement.

I think that's great.

the thought police is scary

also scary, and more subtle is 'social proof'

being free to think for your self, and being able to actually do it.


I wrote my comments on Kaepernick in this thread. Those comments actually didn't contain a single personal opinion of mine about his action. They are about how I see this playing out.
Personally? I'm probably more in line with what you have written.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by AndyC

I don't think anybody is arguing that he didn't/doesn't have the right to do what he did. We are just exercising our right to call him a moron. Exercising one's rights are not free from consequences.

I don't think that he should have the right to do that in his place of employment.
He can do that elsewhere but not on the public's dime.
People pay to see the game, not protest crap.

[kingfin66]

Originally Posted by Hank

$61,000,000 guaranteed


Colin Kaepernick EMBED THIS NEW
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Age: 28
Exp: 5 Years
Drafted: Round 2 (#36 overall), 2011
College: Nevada
Agent(s): XAM Sports



Contract Details
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CURRENT CONTRACT

Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus,, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000. In 2016, Kaepernick will earn a base salary of $11,900,000, a roster bonus of $2,000,000 and a workout bonus of $400,000. Kaepernick has a cap hit of $15,890,753 while his dead money value is $19,697,260.

I want to be oppressed like that!