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Old 12-17-2014, 08:28 PM   #31
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:33 PM   #32
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let's party
Hate to point this out, but those guys live
further away from Cuba than we do.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:37 PM   #33
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He thought they were singing,

"GuantanamoBay...Obama...GuantanamoBay"
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:40 PM   #34
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I have to admit that this is a good question.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:43 PM   #35
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As is the case with many issues, conservatives are in
the minority when it comes to US policy regarding Cuba.

Today's developments are welcomed by most people here,
and throughout the world.
Unless your family members were tortured. Languish in a Cuban prison. Or go hungry every day due to the regime.

How about those shot down by Cuba while flying missions in Cessna aircraft? Dropping leaflets opposing Castro in the water 10 miles outside Cuban Air space?

I'm sure they are jumping up and down today. JFK screwed this up long ago.

Go watch the film about Luis Tiant's return to Cuba and decide if you think Castro should be rewarded

"The Lost Son of Havana" is the title.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:43 PM   #36
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Hate to point this out, but those guys live
further away from Cuba than we do.
yes I'm aware of that but not clear why you would think it important to point out. I liked the sound of this version because it was more up tempo and festive than some of the traditional versions.

I'd venture to say that this beautiful song has been done by at least one band in every country on earth at one point or another.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:45 PM   #37
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Buena Vista Social Club is an album dear to my heart.
Produced by Ry Cooder, one of my all-time favorites,
I played it so many times that my now 18 year old
daughter knows every track by heart.

She was 4 or 5 at the time, and is now a junior at Berkeley.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:53 PM   #39
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Hate to point this out, but those guys live
further away from Cuba than we do.
My bad.
I thought you were taking a shot, but it's good stuff
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:56 PM   #40
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Unless your family members were tortured. Languish in a Cuban prison. Or go hungry every day due to the regime.

How about those shot down by Cuba while flying missions in Cessna aircraft? Dropping leaflets opposing Castro in the water 10 miles outside Cuban Air space?

I'm sure they are jumping up and down today. JFK screwed this up long ago.

Go watch the film about Luis Tiant's return to Cuba and decide if you think Castro should be rewarded

"The Lost Son of Havana" is the title.
As unbelievable as it sounds, I have actually been to Cuba. Grew up outside the USA mainland and made a trip to compete in a swim meet as a young boy (late 70's - early 80's)...scared the s**t out of me.
I left with two thoughts about that place, and I still feel that way today:

Cuba is great - Castro is a barbarian

Yes, he has hung tough all these years in the shadow of the most powerful nation on Earth without wavering...but at a terrible cost to his people and economy, and neither he nor his people have "won".

The question raised earlier regarding China is an interesting one, no?
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:47 PM   #41
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Did the US get rolled by Kim Jong Un and Castro on the same day?
Li Keqiang and Vladimir Putin also in on the deal, and almost surely gave a little shove.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:51 PM   #42
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Three enemies of the US released. they murdered US citizens.
they were spies.

Obama has now release 8 enemies of the country to get two people back.
One of them, probably at least a deserter if not a traitor. Both times for nothing more than politics.


It is not about trade with Cuba.
There is still a LAW about that. BOTH parties have denounced his actions today.

This is about Obama, unilaterally thumbing his nose at the country for REJECTING his policies outright, much like the breakdown of H4C.

As I said earlier, he IGNORES the problems here at home, that HE helped create.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:07 PM   #43
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Cuba is one of just four countries designated by the US State Department as State Sponsors of Terrorism.

The Cuban gov't have been enemies of this once-great country and enemies to their own citizens for 55 years or so. It's been a one-party socialist country ever since Fidel Castro became their dictator President.

Trading three assassins/spies for one hapless fool doesn't cut with me. Defending such a stupid move by saying we can now buy Cuban cigars shows an intellectual ineptness by our 'journalists' in the news media.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:21 PM   #44
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An end to the "wink and smile" trade between the countries. Nebraskans have been sell ag products for over 20 years. GOP Nebraska governors have been to Cuba trade missions 3 times. Besides the Yankees need a shortstop!
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:00 AM   #45
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Being friendly to a communist country

What are the odds
Nixon - China

Bush - Vietnam

To name a couple.
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