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05-08-2006, 10:57 PM
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Lisa@Rudy
Join Date: May 2006
Location: pasadena
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The odds must be crazy
Has anybody read Len Friedman and Len Ragizons book "The odds must be crazy"?I was wondering if it tells you how Len comes up with his numbers without having to buy his sheets?
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05-08-2006, 11:28 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
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RAGOZIN
I really liked the book but he doesn't tell you have to make the numbers. But the books is entertaining and he gives you good insights on how he used the sheets to win bets. He shows how he doesn't just play the best number, but he looks for patterns, and also uses common sense to predict when a horse is expected to improve on his number (for instance, 3rd lifetime start after showing improved speed in 2nd start).
Pandy
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05-09-2006, 01:37 PM
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Location: Henderson, NV
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I read it some time back. It was way better than expected. Entertaining too
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05-09-2006, 10:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Queens, New York
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Very good book. Must read
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05-09-2006, 10:05 PM
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Pace Cappa
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Canada
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Enjoyable Read. Great stuff on form cycles !
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05-10-2006, 01:13 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Very good book. I'm sure Andy will chime in - he has talked about it a lot.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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05-10-2006, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Book
hi guys there is a book out there that jerry brown talks about in his archives site, that got him going on how to make numbers the title is
Consistent Handicapping Profits
Author E.W. Donaldson
problem is the book was published in 1936 i believe. I would love to get my hands on a copy, searched alot of sites but cannot find it. This guy was way ahead of the game.
bob
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05-10-2006, 12:46 PM
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Location: Siro’s
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Originally Posted by hracingplyr
hi guys there is a book out there that jerry brown talks about in his archives site, that got him going on how to make numbers the title is
Consistent Handicapping Profits
Author E.W. Donaldson
problem is the book was published in 1936 i believe. I would love to get my hands on a copy, searched alot of sites but cannot find it. This guy was way ahead of the game.
bob
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I've been trying to find that book for YEARS.
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05-10-2006, 01:20 PM
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Location: Louisville,ky
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I don't think he said it got him going making numbers. Jerry Brown had worked for Ragozin for years, that's how he got his start. JB thinking that Len might have got some of their stuff from this book. Hard book to find.
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05-10-2006, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bird Rock
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kev still a heck of a call with lemons a while back. oddly enough just called The Gamblers Bookshop in Vegas and they don't have it so I checked AZon and they've got it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031...Fencoding=UTF8
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05-10-2006, 06:27 PM
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peakpro
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: monmouth paddock
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good read...recommended....
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05-10-2006, 08:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville,ky
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Thanks, I was actually talking about the older book written in the 30's, I think it's called Consistent Handicapping Profits
Author E.W. Donaldson
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05-11-2006, 03:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: White Plains, NY
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Yes, I highly recommend the Ragozin book even if you don't 'use the sheets (I don't).
Gives you ideas on how to evaluate form cycles -- I don't use every one of them but it still gets you looking at races in a different way.
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05-11-2006, 08:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bird Rock
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might have a line on the 36 publication of Consistent Handicapping Profits
Author E.W. Donaldson I'll keep you posted
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05-11-2006, 08:37 PM
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Comfortably Numb
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Lexington, Ky
Posts: 6,174
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Originally Posted by bigmack
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Just a caveat guys, I ordered this book before the first of the year and they couldn't come up with it. They don't (or didn't anyway) have it in stock but were relying on their network to come up with it. After 3 or 4 postponements from them I finally cancelled the order....
From Amazon:
"We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following
item from your order:
Len Ragozin, et al "The Odds Must Be Crazy : Beating the Races with
the Man Who Revolutionized Handicapping"
Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've
since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this
time."
Bill
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