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11-12-2017, 03:46 PM
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clean money
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Originally Posted by SkunkApe
https://ibb.co/jOi5oG
The shadow thing is silly.
In this image, Gunscrubber and Budlight are in a photo finish. Who won?
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Gunscrubber is a clear bet-back
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11-12-2017, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkunkApe
https://ibb.co/jOi5oG
The shadow thing is silly.
In this image, Gunscrubber and Budlight are in a photo finish. Who won?
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11-12-2017, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkunkApe
https://ibb.co/jOi5oG
The shadow thing is silly.
In this image, Gunscrubber and Budlight are in a photo finish. Who won?
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If the jockey on Bud Bottle would have set a more sensible pace, he would have won.
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11-12-2017, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Augenj
It looks like a head-bobbing photo with the 8 head "back and up" and the 6 head "down and low". Wouldn't the 8 cast a longer shadow since his head is higher than the 6? Much like a taller building casting a longer shadow than its shorter neighbor? This is assuming that they both are about the same height.
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Correct.
The angle of the sun relative to the angle of the finish line also comes into play, I think.
I'll do more experiments once I get more Bud Light cans.
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11-12-2017, 05:26 PM
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11-12-2017, 09:16 PM
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Uno Mas
Funny how the Owner can let a poster see his own posts but not the rest of the board.
One more time for the Industry........
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Last edited by Andy Asaro; 11-12-2017 at 09:23 PM.
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11-12-2017, 09:51 PM
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11-12-2017, 11:18 PM
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What is the controversy? The photo shows a dead heat.
As for Dave Schwartz's "shadow" comment. It seems pretty clear that it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek; it was an old friend's horsey saying concerning dead heats. Dave was not intending shadows to be the industry standard, although it seems like some of you seem to think - again tongue-in-cheek - that it would work better than the current technology.
Is the suggestion that this race was not truly a dead heat? If so, why?
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11-12-2017, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfin66
What is the controversy? The photo shows a dead heat.
As for Dave Schwartz's "shadow" comment. It seems pretty clear that it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek; it was an old friend's horsey saying concerning dead heats. Dave was not intending shadows to be the industry standard, although it seems like some of you seem to think - again tongue-in-cheek - that it would work better than the current technology.
Is the suggestion that this race was not truly a dead heat? If so, why?
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The controversy was it somehow took 12 minutes to declare it a dead heat, and then the silly "explanation" by the steward.
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11-12-2017, 11:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfin66
As for Dave Schwartz's "shadow" comment. It seems pretty clear that it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek; it was an old friend's horsey saying concerning dead heats. Dave was not intending shadows to be the industry standard, although it seems like some of you seem to think - again tongue-in-cheek - that it would work better than the current technology.
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Actually, I was serious.''I have used this for years to win fun bets about photos at the wire. It rarely misses.
As for this photo particular, yes, I was kidding.
I mean, it just sin't THAT accurate.
But, the next time you are watching a duel to the wire in slow motion, look at the shadow. It really DOES pick the winner. Not by an eyelash, LOL.
PS: The Durante photo is the winner in this thread. By a ____. You can fill in the blank.
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11-13-2017, 05:20 AM
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As long as the camera is positioned on the wire, the photo will accurately show the positions of the horse's noses on the wire, which is all that matter. Yes, the REST of the photo may be distorted, but that's because a photo finish camera isn't designed for equine portraiture.
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11-13-2017, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco Santiago
It is, but how about this: we break ties with the shadow!! No more dead heats.
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What do you do with night racing like this race?
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11-13-2017, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
What do you do with night racing like this race?
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11-13-2017, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
What do you do with night racing like this race?
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Shine a giant spotlight in everyone's eyes in the stretch. Whatever horse doesn't freak out and end up in the infield lake wins.
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11-13-2017, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
As long as the camera is positioned on the wire, the photo will accurately show the positions of the horse's noses on the wire, which is all that matter. Yes, the REST of the photo may be distorted, but that's because a photo finish camera isn't designed for equine portraiture.
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I gave an explanation as to why the shadow could be offset considerably from the actual noses.
Apparently no one was impressed.
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