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06-10-2017, 08:41 PM
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#4 in last at SA just announced FTG 18 mtp, wins and causes P6 Jackpot payout
And it takes the pool and the jackpot if it wins.
This is as shady as it gets IMO
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06-10-2017, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
And it takes the pool and the jackpot if it wins.
This is as shady as it gets IMO
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Like I said on Twitter, just no respect for bettors. Horse should be an immediate scratch.
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06-10-2017, 08:49 PM
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06-10-2017, 09:06 PM
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$2 Pick-6 (6/9/9/1/2/4) Paid $891,568.80 (6OF6)
$2 Pick-6 (6/9/9/1/2/4) Paid $933.00 (5OF6)
Last edited by Andy Asaro; 06-10-2017 at 09:08 PM.
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06-10-2017, 09:12 PM
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This is outrageous on so many levels. I hope the p6 winner is not connected to the connections.
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06-10-2017, 09:19 PM
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After hearing this and the inquiry in the first yesterday, I am done playing SA anymore at this meet.
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06-10-2017, 09:23 PM
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State Vets should have noticed in pre race exam.
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06-10-2017, 09:47 PM
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The best part of this it's Peter Miller. It's trainer responsibility to divulge the horse was gelded. The rule is in California Trainers or owners must report a sex alteration on racetrack grounds to the racing office within 72 hours of the operation or face a $1,000 fine. If the operation is performed off-track, it has to be reported “at the time of the next entry of the horse to race.”
So if this shakes out as he didn't report it and he bitched and moaned about the DQ yesterday the stewards should give him days.
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06-10-2017, 09:51 PM
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donut believe the hype...
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06-10-2017, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa
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It was announced on track, it hasn't been updated in Equibase records yet.
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06-10-2017, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
State Vets should have noticed in pre race exam.
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No way. Not to you bore with the undercarriage of horses but you've got ridglings, you've got all sorts of young horses with one or or two not dropped and you've got ones with tiny testicles. Asking a vet to certify every horse as a horse is unfair.
How about trainers learned to fill out paperwork. Remember when all the Dutrows supporters talked about how half his violations were for paperwork? Ain't it funny how the guys who are notorious for sudden former reversal and winning off the claim suck at paperwork?
It's fascinating how Rich Dutrow, Ron Ellis, and Peter Miller are great trainers but awful at keeping records. So odd.
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06-10-2017, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperPickle
No way. Not to you bore with the undercarriage of horses but you've got ridglings, you've got all sorts of young horses with one or or two not dropped and you've got ones with tiny testicles. Asking a vet to certify every horse as a horse is unfair.
How about trainers learned to fill out paperwork. Remember when all the Dutrows supporters talked about how half his violations were for paperwork? Ain't it funny how the guys who are notorious for sudden former reversal and winning off the claim suck at paperwork?
It's fascinating how Rich Dutrow, Ron Ellis, and Peter Miller are great trainers but awful at keeping records. So odd.
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5 years ago I argued that if they weren't announced as first time geldings at least 30 minutes before first post they should be scratched. CHRB chose handle over integrity and that was on display today.
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06-10-2017, 10:16 PM
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Besides this being total BS, The question is, who told who, that this colt is now a gelding, and when?
Since it was known at the time of the announcement by Wrona, about 17-18 MTP, that there was a Jackpot ticket to the , wouldnt the track have benefited if they scratched the horse?......or as per a Brad Free Tweet
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06-10-2017, 10:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theiman
Besides this being total BS, The question is, who told who, that this colt is now a gelding, and when?
Since it was known at the time of the announcement by Wrona, about 17-18 MTP, that there was a Jackpot ticket to the , wouldnt the track have benefited if they scratched the horse?......or as per a Brad Free Tweet
https://twitter.com/BradFree1/status/873701436147642369
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Yes, if they scratched the jackpot would still be live. Nothing in rule stating that you can scratch in this situation.
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06-10-2017, 10:40 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/single-ticke...es-controversy
Excerpt:
The winning ticket, which was purchased for $1,920 at Hollywood Park, was live to two runners – favorite Lucky With You and Fly to Mars. A win by Lucky With You would have triggered multiple pick-six payouts and allowed the single-ticket jackpot to carry; the winning bettor’s ticket was the only ticket that was live to Fly to Mars.
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Trainer Peter Miller, contacted by phone after the win by Fly to Mars, said the California-bred maiden had been gelded several months earlier.
“I thought we called it in when we cut him six months ago,” Miller said after the race. “It was an oversight.”
Last edited by Andy Asaro; 06-10-2017 at 10:41 PM.
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