50+ dead in mass shooting - Las Vegas

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Hey...it beats blaming a gun. Besides, how can you not see that human beings are fundamentally flawed?

So, the gun is blameless...but we should blame the lack of "organized prayer".

I'm starting to believe you about the "flawed nature of man".

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

Trust me....anyone who reads your posts knows just how flawed human beings are.

Well good. You're making progress and you have me to thank for it. You can now quit blaming, inorganic, impersonal, amoral guns for the slaughter of human beings. Congratulations!

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Well good. You're making progress and you have me to thank for it. You can now quit blaming, inorganic, impersonal, amoral guns for the slaughter of human beings. Congratulations!

My post was much funnier....and truthful than yours. Try harder.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

After years and years of no prayer and no "ten commandments"...how do you expect a 64-year old to act?

First the facts Gus, all of the whack jobs who have done these mass killings have been life long democrats, maybe this case will be the different one.
Until we figure out why this guy decided he was going to die the other day, we will not have the rest of the story. I would not be surprised if he found out he would not know his own name in a year due to a diagnoses Alzheimer's or a inoperable brain tumor. Other things that should be looked at might include hate of young people or that this particular concert might contain a disproportionate number of conservatives. My gut feeling is local and federal LEO's will uncover much on this one. It is way too early to propose remedies for evil people.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Originally Posted by fast4522

First the facts Gus, all of the whack jobs who have done these mass killings have been life long democrats, maybe this case will be the different one.
Until we figure out why this guy decided he was going to die the other day, we will not have the rest of the story. I would not be surprised if he found out he would not know his own name in a year due to a diagnoses Alzheimer's or a inoperable brain tumor. Other things that should be looked at might include hate of young people or that this particular concert might contain a disproportionate number of conservatives. My gut feeling is local and federal LEO's will uncover much on this one. It is way too early to propose remedies for evil people.

Probably nothing more will be found out until the authorities talk to the man's lady friend.

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by fast4522

First the facts Gus, all of the whack jobs who have done these mass killings have been life long democrats, maybe this case will be the different one.
Until we figure out why this guy decided he was going to die the other day, we will not have the rest of the story. I would not be surprised if he found out he would not know his own name in a year due to a diagnoses Alzheimer's or a inoperable brain tumor. Other things that should be looked at might include hate of young people or that this particular concert might contain a disproportionate number of conservatives. My gut feeling is local and federal LEO's will uncover much on this one. It is way too early to propose remedies for evil people.

I like that you start your post saying facts and then immediately post something not true.

Was Timothy McVeigh a Democrat?

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

...

Was Timothy McVeigh a Democrat?

Or Dylan Roof or Adam Lanza or Harris and Kliebold...

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

I like that you start your post saying facts and then immediately post something not true.

Was Timothy McVeigh a Democrat?

I honestly did not go that far back, keep in mind that I said whack jobs. Timothy McVeigh was correctly labeled a domestic terrorist. Maybe this guy will as well, but I bet he participated in a campaign in our last election. That is a stretch given he had no Facebook, I think that they will uncover more than one would think given he worked as a IRS agent and also for the USPS.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

So, the gun is blameless...but we should blame the lack of "organized prayer".

I'm starting to believe you about the "flawed nature of man".

How 'bout just the general lack of prayer? And what in the world is "organized prayer"?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz

Probably nothing more will be found out until the authorities talk to the man's lady friend.

What they will talk to her about is the money transfers and collusion possibility's, the breadcrumbs this guy left behind over several states is already being gathered.

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by fast4522

I honestly did not go that far back, keep in mind that I said whack jobs. Timothy McVeigh was correctly labeled a domestic terrorist. Maybe this guy will as well, but I bet he participated in a campaign in our last election. That is a stretch given he had no Facebook, I think that they will uncover more than one would think given he worked as a IRS agent and also for the USPS.

McVeigh was a whack job.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

How 'bout just the general lack of prayer? And what in the world is "organized prayer"?

In post #199, OntheRail stated that the "removal of School prayer", that the "liberals" enacted, is a factor in these killing sprees. Of course, Fager Fan was quick to agree. That's what I was addressing...the "organized prayer" that used to take place in the schools.

When you talk about "the general lack of prayer"...I'm not sure that I know what you mean. Are the liberals also to blame for the reluctance of the parents to teach their kids how to pray at home?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by fast4522

First the facts Gus, all of the whack jobs who have done these mass killings have been life long democrats, maybe this case will be the different one.
Until we figure out why this guy decided he was going to die the other day, we will not have the rest of the story. I would not be surprised if he found out he would not know his own name in a year due to a diagnoses Alzheimer's or a inoperable brain tumor. Other things that should be looked at might include hate of young people or that this particular concert might contain a disproportionate number of conservatives. My gut feeling is local and federal LEO's will uncover much on this one. It is way too early to propose remedies for evil people.

I would caution that no one should hold their breath waiting for the truth from authorities, most especially if the truth in this case paints liberals in even a more unflattering light -- or for that matter any "protected class" of people, such as Muslims -- if it turns out this guy was associated with Muslim terrorists. And this goes double if the FBI is the lead investigating agency in this case. It seems that an awful lot of careful planning went into this massacre for this to be a lone wolf crime.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

In post #199, OntheRail stated that the "removal of School prayer", that the "liberals" enacted, is a factor in these killing sprees. Of course, Fager Fan was quick to agree. That's what I was addressing...the "organized prayer" that used to take place in the schools.

When you talk about "the general lack of prayer"...I'm not sure that I know what you mean. Are the liberals also to blame for the reluctance of the parents to teach their kids how to pray at home?

It's not a liberal-conservative issue as much as a religious one. I'm thinking, for example of Ps 144:15 that talks about the blessedness of the people (nation) whose God is the Lord. But America is virtually a godless nation. There is no fear (reverence) of God in the people's eyes. There is no love for Him or trust for Him. Virtually everyone does what is right in his own eyes. This is one of the major reasons we see so much political and religious division in this country, which eventually will be our downfall, since a house divided against itself cannot stand. This is why in my church, we pray constantly that God would heal this land -- heal it spiritually.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I would caution that no one should hold their breath waiting for the truth from authorities, most especially if the truth in this case paints liberals in even a more unflattering light -- or for that matter any "protected class" of people, such as Muslims -- if it turns out this guy was associated with Muslim terrorists. And this goes double if the FBI is the lead investigating agency in this case. It seems that an awful lot of careful planning went into this massacre for this to be a lone wolf crime.

I don't understand. The liberals get blamed for wanting to "disarm everybody"...and they also get blamed for having "ties" to every mass-murderer that ever came down the pike. Is there any "evil" that the liberals AREN'T responsible for?