#4 in last at SA just announced FTG 18 mtp, wins and causes P6 Jackpot payout

[SuperPickle]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Saying the rider almost went down is akin to positioning Friday's DQ as the Secretariat of bad DQs.

I watched the race as it was happening and all the subsequent Steward's views...never once thought the rider almost went down...

Look we can debate the definition of "almost going down" all day but it's indisputable he steadied hard. He also objected so clearly he felt someone did something.

You'll agree there's at least 20 DQ's a year where the fouled rider never stops riding and the horse still comes down. This was the wrong call but it's taken on a life of its own among SoCal horseplayers.

Or to put it another way I'm far more concerned about Saturday's last race than Friday's first race.

[Andy Asaro]

This takes the cake.

Santa Anita stewards ask for guidance to prevent future pick six controversy

http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-...ix-controversy

[Andy Asaro]

BTW the winning controversial Pick 6 ticket has not been cashed yet adding to the conspiracy theories.

http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-...ix-controversy

Excerpt:

According to Nate Newby, Santa Anita vice president of marketing, the winning ticket had not been cashed as of late Sunday afternoon, at either Hollywood Park Casino or Santa Anita.

[GMB@BP]

Best peter miller putover happened about 3 years ago on friday Breeders Cup day undercard....cant remember the horse but it won for 50 bucks or so. Not a guy I would trust so to speak.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

This takes the cake.

Santa Anita stewards ask for guidance to prevent future pick six controversy

http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-...ix-controversy

What paid professionals in their right minds ask for guidance for FTG?

[Gander36]

John 8:7 - "Whoever among you pix-six players that left the horse off their ticket because they thought he was a colt, let him be the first to cast a stone at the racing officials..."

[SuperPickle]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

Best peter miller putover happened about 3 years ago on friday Breeders Cup day undercard....cant remember the horse but it won for 50 bucks or so. Not a guy I would trust so to speak.

First time starter going long in a maiden claimer? Went to the front and just kept going. That's the one I'm thinking of.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by Gander36

John 8:7 - "Whoever among you pix-six players that left the horse off their ticket because they thought he was a colt, let him be the first to cast a stone at the racing officials..."

Awesome.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by SuperPickle

First time starter going long in a maiden claimer? Went to the front and just kept going. That's the one I'm thinking of.

Heir of the Storm....Nov 1 2013, 1st race. Though at 40/1 hard to believe it was some funny business but he was so overmatched on a BC day maybe he could have still taken money with the inside stuff going on.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Gander36

John 8:7 - "Whoever among you pix-six players that left the horse off their ticket because they thought he was a colt, let him be the first to cast a stone at the racing officials..."

Or P3, or P4, or DD.

[KidCruz]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

Heir of the Storm....Nov 1 2013, 1st race. Though at 40/1 hard to believe it was some funny business but he was so overmatched on a BC day maybe he could have still taken money with the inside stuff going on.

Lol, he spent that entire year having PVal basically lope that horse around 5 wide every trip that entire year. Then on BC day, he switches jockeys and all of a sudden he's running 21,43,107,120 and walloping G1 winners. Someone made some score on him in some pool that day, of that I am sure. It wasn't the Pick 5 though which famously carried.

[Spalding No!]

Originally Posted by KidCruz

Lol, he spent that entire year having PVal basically lope that horse around 5 wide every trip that entire year. Then on BC day, he switches jockeys and all of a sudden he's running 21,43,107,120 and walloping G1 winners. Someone made some score on him in some pool that day, of that I am sure. It wasn't the Pick 5 though which famously carried.

Heir of Storm was a well-meant early 2yo the year before when winning his debut at Hollywood Park going 5.5f from just off the pace after breaking slow. In that race he defeated eventual millionaire and track record holder Moreno as well as multiple graded stakes winner Fury Kapcori.

At the time, the horse was trained by low profile Alexis Barba, who proceeded to run the horse in the two main 2yo stakes at Del Mar. He ran 4th in the Best Pal before coming undone in the G1 DM Futurity. He was gone for nearly a year after that.

When he returned, Barba must have decided he was a two-turn grass horse for some reason, because after a sprint tune-up, he was running in grass allowances over 8f. She also thought the horse was suited to a closing style because he was not showing any of the tactical speed he displayed at 2.

After 3 off-the-board comeback attempts, the owners of the horse must of had enough and sold the horse. Miller took over, and simply put the horse back where he had his only previous success, sprinting on the main track. He also put the horse on the lead, which may have been his preference all along (he broke slow in his 2 relevant 2yo starts). The horse was subsequently graded stakes place.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Spalding No!

Heir of Storm was a well-meant early 2yo the year before when winning his debut at Hollywood Park going 5.5f from just off the pace after breaking slow. In that race he defeated eventual millionaire and track record holder Moreno as well as multiple graded stakes winner Fury Kapcori.

At the time, the horse was trained by low profile Alexis Barba, who proceeded to run the horse in the two main 2yo stakes at Del Mar. He ran 4th in the Best Pal before coming undone in the G1 DM Futurity. He was gone for nearly a year after that.

When he returned, Barba must have decided he was a two-turn grass horse for some reason, because after a sprint tune-up, he was running in grass allowances over 8f. She also thought the horse was suited to a closing style because he was not showing any of the tactical speed he displayed at 2.

After 3 off-the-board comeback attempts, the owners of the horse must of had enough and sold the horse. Miller took over, and simply put the horse back where he had his only previous success, sprinting on the main track. He also put the horse on the lead, which may have been his preference all along (he broke slow in his 2 relevant 2yo starts). The horse was subsequently graded stakes place.

If I remember correctly there was like one published work for the race. It looked funny after the fact, I do remember that.

[HuggingTheRail]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

This takes the cake.

Santa Anita stewards ask for guidance to prevent future pick six controversy

http://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-...ix-controversy

Not saying this is at all right, but what should the stewards have done? If they aren't allowed to scratch the horse, and they cannot declare it running for purse money only, not sure what they could do?

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by HuggingTheRail

Not saying this is at all right, but what should the stewards have done? If they aren't allowed to scratch the horse, and they cannot declare it running for purse money only, not sure what they could do?

They were stuck with the rule that the CHRB made 4 years ago. There are only 2 legit choices to change the rule. Either scratch or run for purse money only if a FTG isn't announced at least 30 minutes before the first race of the day.

If they don't know what to do after this then they shouldn't have jobs IMO.