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Old 10-23-2012, 10:32 PM   #1
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Benghazigate takes a turn

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/23/emails...mpaign=twitter


Won"t matter at all to Obama voters.

If he wins? It will matter in the Impeachment talk

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89N02C20121024

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Old 10-23-2012, 10:34 PM   #2
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Impeachment is where I see this going. Issa may have to push aside F&F b/c this is 100 x more serious
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
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The reason Romney didn't lean into it last night - (among many reasons) is Camp Romney knows this issue will play itself out publicly.

If the press covered this like Watergate, HClintoon would have resigned by now. As it is, she is done.

Leave the fields on fire, pack your bags & GET OUT.

The lot of this feckless administration.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:56 PM   #4
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http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/...k-in-benghazi/

Read em and weep
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:05 AM   #5
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Good luck answering to this, Mr 'I killed bin Laden and you didn't'.......


The third email came at 6:07 pm and was sent to a different email list, but still includes the White House Situation room address.

This email contains the key subject line that reads “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

This is the link to the al Qaeda-affiliated organization.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:09 AM   #6
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Too bad the debates are over...
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:08 AM   #7
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http://twitchy.com/2012/10/23/emails...mpaign=twitter


Won"t matter at all to Obama voters.

If he wins? It will matter in the Impeachment talk

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89N02C20121024
here is what the e-mails say, from your Reuters link.
First e-mail received at 4:05PM Washington time.
[QUOTE]The text said the State Department's regional security office had reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was "under attack. Embassy in Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well."

The message continued: "Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four ... personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

Second E-mail was received at 4:54.
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A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time, said that the Embassy in Tripoli had reported that "the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi had stopped and the compound had been cleared." It said a "response team" was at the site attempting to locate missing personnel.
Third e-mail at 6:07:
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A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

The message reported: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."
I know you think this is some kind of amazing smoking gun. Point out to me where it says in any of the e-mails that there was no concurrent demonstration taking place. It says Ansar al Sharia claims responsibility, but these groups claim responsibility all the time for events they have no connection to. Even if they were responsible that does not mean a demonstration was not taking place. Yes, we know now that there was not, but these messages were meant to give a concise account of the situation, Also the e-mails came to the White House from the State Departments regional security office which was receiving information from the Embassy in Tripoli. Tripoli was getting information from Benghazi.

So what is your point here. That Obama knew there was no demonstration? These e mails don't mention a demonstration but neither do they say there was not one.

That Obama did not act quickly enough to defend the compound in Benghazi once he knew of the attack? In the first place you do not know what actions he took or what options were available to him at the time. And the first e mail stated that the ambassador and his party were in the "compound safe haven"
It also stated that, The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

All in all a whole lot of nothing.
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Impeachment is where I see this going. Issa may have to push aside F&F b/c this is 100 x more serious
Anyone who thinks this is an impeachable offense either does not know the Constitution or is not playing with a full deck.
The Constitution states the President can be impeached for High Crimes and Misdemeanors or for treason. Even if the malfeasance of the administration reached the levels you believe it did-and it came nowhere near-no crimes were committed. And to say that claiming there were demonstrations when there were not is Treason is preposterous.

On the other hand we are dealing with Darryl Issa.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:28 AM   #9
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Funny how Mostie ignores the conclusions outlined in the Reuters article
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:39 AM   #10
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It says Ansar al Sharia claims responsibility, but these groups claim responsibility all the time for events they have no connection to. Even if they were responsible that does not mean a demonstration was not taking place. .
It's sad mostie to see you trying so hard to defend the indefensible. America has been lied to.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:46 AM   #11
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Even if they were responsible that does not mean a demonstration was not taking place. .
They watched it live on DRONE TV.
They said repeatedly afterwards that they had NO INDICATION it was a terrorist attack.

I will enjoy to hell your reactions to the impeachment proceedings.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:30 AM   #12
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Actually, after I think about it, it would be ironic if our first two Black presidents were both impeached!
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If lying and lawbreakiing were a big deal this regime would have been done for long ago.

While this should be a big deal the regimes palace guards (the media) will quash it.

it is absolutely reprehensible and a derilection of duty all because it was part of some arms project that Obama was undertaking to arm the radicals in Syria.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:41 AM   #14
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“Based on the information we had at the time and we have now, we do not yet have indication that it was preplanned or premeditated,”

- Jay Carney, about ten days later, or roughly 238 hours after they had indication that it was preplanned or premeditated.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:07 AM   #15
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E mails 2 hours after the attack made it clear it was a terrorist attack.
And the ambassador was possibly still alive at that time.

This is what Obama did:

1. Circle the wagons
2. Distance myself
3. Set up Hillary
4. Send gifts to the press
5. What tie for the View?
6. Letterman.....what can I do for a joke?
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