Preakness Tosses

[Matt Bryan]

Originally Posted by Mad Scientist

Kid Cruz closed into very slow fractions which is more impressive than closing into fast fractions and explains why he is speed figures were not all that great.

Why, because horses are more likely to tire with faster fractions, or in this particular race scenario?

I don't think he looks bad, and like his pedigree. He looked good closing, it was just the times that concerned me.

[Thebigguy]

Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF

He is the ONLY closer in a race full of nothing else but front runners and pace pressers. There are no middle-pack runners in this field.

He is not the only closer.

[BlueChip@DRF]

Originally Posted by Thebigguy

He is not the only closer.

Who is the other?

[Smarty Cide]

Shit I want TheBigGuys PP's... its like insider trading... dont say that then not tell us who...

[BlueChip@DRF]

Originally Posted by Smarty Cide

Shit I want TheBigGuys PP's... its like insider trading... dont say that then not tell us who...

I have advanced PPs and I do not see any other bonafide closer. And I hope he doesn't say it's Ride On Curlin - closing from far back two out of the ten races he was in (and one was the heavy volume Kentucky Derby) does not make him a closer.

And I will admit one middle-runner I missed: Ria Antonia.

[Rex Phinney]

Can you really call it "closing" if the horses in front of you are slowing down that badly? In the race at Pimlico he was able to move into striking distance down the back stretch with little effort.

Social Inclusion and CC are going to be 20 lengths ahead of Kid Cruz. I just don't see any way they let him back in the race if he lays back, and I see no way he can run close enough to horses of this class and have anything left.

[FlyinLate]

Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF

I have advanced PPs and I do not see any other bonafide closer. And I hope he doesn't say it's Ride On Curlin - closing from far back two out of the ten races he was in (and one was the heavy volume Kentucky Derby) does not make him a closer.

And I will admit one middle-runner I missed: Ria Antonia.

While you may not want him to say ROC, the fact of the matter is, the only way this horse wins is by returning this running style. If I know this, I'm certain the trainer and jockey do. Plenty of speed has drawn in, he draws the far outside, he runs anywhere near the pace and he'll be going backwards in the stretch. He's never been an impressive closer, but him and Antonia will be knocking off those who have tuckered themselves out in the early part of the race.

[Edward DeVere]

Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF

There are no middle-pack runners in this field.

I think Dynamic Impact is a middle-pack runner in this field.

[taxicab]

I would not recommend tossing Ring Weekend out.
This horse has talent.
His TB Derby was very impressive.
He smoked that field with ease.
In the Calder race I doubt trainer GM had him cranked up, and RW took a very uncomfortable trip from the jump.
I think he runs a good race Saturday.
Second or third sounds about right.

[BlueChip@DRF]

Originally Posted by FlyinLate

While you may not want him to say ROC, the fact of the matter is, the only way this horse wins is by returning this running style. If I know this, I'm certain the trainer and jockey do. Plenty of speed has drawn in, he draws the far outside, he runs anywhere near the pace and he'll be going backwards in the stretch. He's never been an impressive closer, but him and Antonia will be knocking off those who have tuckered themselves out in the early part of the race.

Then why is Borel off for this race? The connections did not want that type of race in the Derby and instructed so, but Borel ran his own race.

[BlueChip@DRF]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I would not recommend tossing Ring Weekend out.
This horse has talent.
His TB Derby was very impressive.
He smoked that field with ease.
In the Calder race I doubt trainer GM had him cranked up, and RW took a very uncomfortable trip from the jump.
I think he runs a good race Saturday.
Second or third sounds about right.

He's lost ground in the stretch in every race he ran in.

[Thebigguy]

Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF

Who is the other?

Ride on Curlins best career race is clear his Champagne at 2. Check where he came from that day.
Linda Rice has a nice horse, a horse who is simply not good enough. He should be 50-1 to win this race, instead people are talking about 12 star locks of century. It seems sloppy to me. Quick scan of the pps and boom he is the only closer. Not the case at all.

[Thebigguy]

Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF

He's lost ground in the stretch in every race he ran in.

Are you making this crap up?

[Thebigguy]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I would not recommend tossing Ring Weekend out.
This horse has talent.
His TB Derby was very impressive.
He smoked that field with ease.
In the Calder race I doubt trainer GM had him cranked up, and RW took a very uncomfortable trip from the jump.
I think he runs a good race Saturday.
Second or third sounds about right.

I totally agree and he will rate and has rated and won. I think he has a shot.

[Thebigguy]

Originally Posted by Smarty Cide

Shit I want TheBigGuys PP's... its like insider trading... dont say that then not tell us who...

lol. You were right about the chalk in a race and now have a stupid signature and say dumb shit like this.