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Old 06-21-2022, 05:41 AM   #61
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1030 and 1130 are perfectly logical starting times when it is hot. They are not early morning though as was suggested in this thread, they are late morning.
Morning is still morning and the post times were shifted due to the heat. Most did not agree with the idea and yet all these tracks are running with it. Now go wipe that egg off of your face.
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:35 AM   #62
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I’ve seen this happen at Saratoga as well. Has any track considered changing starting post time to early morning on these predicted hot days?
Congratulations on seeing a suggestion received well by some track managements. Don't let it go to your head.
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:07 AM   #63
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Morning is still morning and the post times were shifted due to the heat. Most did not agree with the idea and yet all these tracks are running with it. Now go wipe that egg off of your face.
To me early morning is 8 am or so. They were never going to race at 8. We play tennis in the morning to beat the heat here in OKC. We play around 10 or 10:30. If our group asked to move it to 8, I'd laugh at them. Big difference. Speaking of eggs, I don't even have them until 10.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:09 PM   #64
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To me early morning is 8 am or so. They were never going to race at 8. We play tennis in the morning to beat the heat here in OKC. We play around 10 or 10:30. If our group asked to move it to 8, I'd laugh at them. Big difference. Speaking of eggs, I don't even have them until 10.
I think one of the Breeders' Cup cards in California started at 9. As I recall, people started tricking into the track at 10.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:22 PM   #65
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To me early morning is 8 am or so. They were never going to race at 8. We play tennis in the morning to beat the heat here in OKC. We play around 10 or 10:30. If our group asked to move it to 8, I'd laugh at them. Big difference. Speaking of eggs, I don't even have them until 10.

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Old 06-22-2022, 08:05 AM   #66
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I always say,"Never crack egss before the crack of noon."
If we started live racing at 8:00am, I'd probably turn my life around.
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Old 06-23-2022, 10:53 AM   #67
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Some post changes due to the heat per Ron Tiller on the HTR board.

CD 1st post is now at 10:30am ET on Wednesday June 22
IND 1st post is now at 6:45pm ET and then every 30 minutes following on Tuesday June 21
BTP 1st post is now 11:35am ET on Tuesday and Wednesday June 21 and 22
LS 1st post is 11:00am on Saturday June 25
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:17 AM   #68
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Churchill handled $2.5 million on Wednesday with the early post. Probably slightly more than half of what they would have handled with a normal post time.
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Old 06-23-2022, 02:39 PM   #69
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I don't know anything about CD, but 50% could be terrible or still Ok compared to cancelling and getting zero depending on their costs for opening and how future handle is impacted. Maybe they will learn something.
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Old 06-23-2022, 03:05 PM   #70
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I don't know anything about CD, but 50% could be terrible or still Ok compared to cancelling and getting zero depending on their costs for opening and how future handle is impacted. Maybe they will learn something.
probably would have been better off running at 7pm
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Old 06-23-2022, 03:18 PM   #71
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Churchill handled $2.5 million on Wednesday with the early post. Probably slightly more than half of what they would have handled with a normal post time.
They knew the handle was going to drop. It was never a concern. The concern was losing the entire day that if closed they would never get back. There is much more to this other then handle being lost but you obviously from this post and others don’t care. For all connections involved of course finding a way to run is always the better decision. Several tracks have followed suit because it’s the right thing to do.
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Cancelled days usually get made up. They are not lost for good, forever.
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I love when I share facts and some nitwit determines it’s an opinion.
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probably would have been better off running at 7pm
You would think if anyone has some insights into night racing it would be CD because they've run night cards. Like I said, maybe they learned something from this and can make a more informed decision about whether they are better off starting early, late, or cancelling and on which days. Obviously though, canceling wasn't an attractive decision or they wouldn't have even tried the early start.
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Cancelled days usually get made up. They are not lost for good, forever.
I think it sometimes gets more complicated because the condition book is out and horses are trained and aiming for certain races. If a card gets cancelled, they can probably squeeze in some of the cancelled races on other days if races don't fill, but you don't want to have to wait several weeks for a race if your horse is ready. You'd rather they run the card as scheduled.
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