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PhantomOnTour · 06-14-2022, 10:57 AM

Reared at the start of the King's Stand at Royal Ascot, and looks like he was eased late by Irad.
Ran last.
That 8yr old Australian runner was very impressive.

Michael · 06-14-2022, 11:02 AM

I was looking forward to watching Golden Pal run, but that was fairly anti-climatic to see him left at the gate like that.

PhantomOnTour · 06-14-2022, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael

I was looking forward to watching Golden Pal run, but that was fairly anti-climatic to see him left at the gate like that.

Irad got him into the race but he faded badly.
He clearly isn't cut out for their style of racing. Be it the straight course, the undulating ground, or whatever.
This is the 3rd time he's gone over there and failed.

snappit · 06-14-2022, 12:05 PM

It would have been nice to see him run well but my suspicion is he doesn't like our straight courses. The winner looked really good and it would have taken something special to beat him.

cj · 06-14-2022, 02:00 PM

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It would have been nice to see him run well but my suspicion is he doesn't like our straight courses. The winner looked really good and it would have taken something special to beat him.

Did it matter what the shape of the course was after he blew the break?

the little guy · 06-14-2022, 02:18 PM

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Did it matter what the shape of the course was after he blew the break?

He finished second at Ascot as a 2YO. You have to wonder why it is so hard for some to look at a horse's pps before talking out of their butt.

ClockersCorner · 06-14-2022, 03:14 PM

It would have taken a superlative performance to beat the winner even with a clean start.

cj · 06-14-2022, 03:28 PM

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It would have taken a superlative performance to beat the winner even with a clean start.

For sure, I thought he was the better horse anyway.

biggestal99 · 06-14-2022, 04:06 PM

irad unprepared for the start, thought they were still loading, obviously didnt know they run without horses who are hard to load.

Allan

snappit · 06-14-2022, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the little guy

He finished second at Ascot as a 2YO. You have to wonder why it is so hard for some to look at a horse's pps before talking out of their butt.

Thank you for your contribution, always nice to converse with well mannered people. I would hazard a guess that my knowledge of form over here is tad more than yours. The fact is he has failed every time he has run here and his form over here doesn't seem to be near what he has achieved in the states. His run at York wasn't particularly good and the race at Ascot where he did come second seems to have been quite a weak race.

biggestal99 · 06-14-2022, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snappit

Thank you for your contribution, always nice to converse with well mannered people. I would hazard a guess that my knowledge of form over here is tad more than yours. The fact is he has failed every time he has run here and his form over here doesn't seem to be near what he has achieved in the states. His run at York wasn't particularly good and the race at Ascot where he did come second seems to have been quite a weak race.

his best RPR in the UK is 106, far below his races in the states so he has underperformed in the UK for whatever reason. burned plenty of dough in those three starts.

the aussie is indeed a superior race horse.

Allan

Michael · 06-14-2022, 07:22 PM

"The colt's pilot Irad Ortiz, Jr. told trainer Wesley Ward he was watching another horse acting up behind the gates prior to the start.

That horse, Mondammej, was withdrawn from the race after the rest of the field had already been loaded for several minutes. The starting gates then opened before Ortiz was prepared.

Ward told racingpost.com: “Irad was looking back at the horse that wouldn't load. He didn't realize they scratch horses over here. He said he almost fell off.”"

Article: https://paulickreport.com/news/thoro...n-kings-stand/

$w1fT · 06-14-2022, 09:41 PM

So Irad was unprepared and unaware of the rules over there.

the little guy · 06-14-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by snappit

Thank you for your contribution, always nice to converse with well mannered people. I would hazard a guess that my knowledge of form over here is tad more than yours. The fact is he has failed every time he has run here and his form over here doesn't seem to be near what he has achieved in the states. His run at York wasn't particularly good and the race at Ascot where he did come second seems to have been quite a weak race.

A simple "good point....thanks" would have sufficed. But, then again, had you done that I would have missed out on how badly you hate to be wrong.

I, on the other hand, am used to it. But thanks for the laughs.

the little guy · 06-14-2022, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99

his best RPR in the UK is 106, far below his races in the states so he has underperformed in the UK for whatever reason. burned plenty of dough in those three starts.

the aussie is indeed a superior race horse.

Allan

It was his second career start as a 2YO. It was actually quite exceptional for that point in his career.

But you knew that.

He lost all chance today due to rider error. No, he wasn't but to condemn his as "hating straightaways" because of what happened today is patently absurd.

I'll forgive you, though, because you aren't from England. The other guy should have known better:-)