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Old 06-15-2022, 12:44 AM   #76
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I haven't bet a Texas race in at least five years.
I’m in NY. Most of my betting these days is outside of NY. I mostly bet CD, KEE, FG, OP, and miscellaneous other tracks carding races I’m interested in. If I suddenly couldn’t bet outside NY anymore, I’d probably start looking at the NY races more carefully again and find some extra bets, but even if my NY handle rose my overall handle would probably decline. I’m not sure what other people would do in different locations.
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Old 06-15-2022, 06:32 AM   #77
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So, there is the key unknown. States like NY or Ky would be major importers of wagers. Most other states, including Tx, would be exporters of wagers. If half of the difference came back to Tx tracks, maybe the decline would not be so dramatic. The big question is who benefits? Where does that other gambling money go? Is it in state at casinos? Or is it exported as sports gambling? It does raise the possibility that states like WV or OH might be better served to cut the cord and go it alone. Or at least temporarily to see how it shakes out.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:02 AM   #78
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The latest attempt at a TRC power play arrived in the form of a June 13 letter from its executive director, Amy Cook, that suggests the commission would not allow wagering at any track that reaches an agreement with HISA. In an effort to make it sound like she stood for something other than obstruction, Cook at one point serves up a sentence with 80 words, six commas, and a generous amount of pettiness. Be warned, it runs below in all its bureaucratic glory.
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"Since the Texas Racing Commission regulates all aspects of Texas horse racing, including, in particular, pari-mutuel and simulcast wagering in Texas, the application of federal law pursuant to HISA in any aspect of horse racing regulation for a particular race or meet will necessarily preclude the Texas Racing Commission from full compliance with the Texas Racing Act and will, therefore, necessitate that no such affected race shall be allowed to conduct on-site pari-mutuel wagering or provide simulcast export signal," Cook said (and I hope exhaled).
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:12 AM   #79
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So, there is the key unknown. States like NY or Ky would be major importers of wagers. Most other states, including Tx, would be exporters of wagers. If half of the difference came back to Tx tracks, maybe the decline would not be so dramatic. The big question is who benefits? Where does that other gambling money go? Is it in state at casinos? Or is it exported as sports gambling? It does raise the possibility that states like WV or OH might be better served to cut the cord and go it alone. Or at least temporarily to see how it shakes out.
In Texas we are only allowed to bet on Horse Racing at a Texas race track, ADW wagering is illegal.
As of July 1st of this year the only track that Texans will be able to bet on is Lone Star Park. After the Lone Star Park's meet ends at the end of July, there won't be any more betting on horse racing in or from Texas.
We won't be exporting any handle to anywhere.
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Old 06-15-2022, 01:02 PM   #80
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In Texas we are only allowed to bet on Horse Racing at a Texas race track, ADW wagering is illegal.
As of July 1st of this year the only track that Texans will be able to bet on is Lone Star Park. After the Lone Star Park's meet ends at the end of July, there won't be any more betting on horse racing in or from Texas.
We won't be exporting any handle to anywhere.
What about Sam Houston?
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Old 06-15-2022, 01:35 PM   #81
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What about Sam Houston?
if the Texas racing commission doesn't get their way all Texas tracks will only allow betting on Texas tracks from people in Texas only. There is not enough money in that, so they will shortly have to close all Texas tracks.
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Old 06-15-2022, 01:58 PM   #82
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if the Texas racing commission doesn't get their way all Texas tracks will only allow betting on Texas tracks from people in Texas only. There is not enough money in that, so they will shortly have to close all Texas tracks.
Or more likely, they'll just capitulate, as states making bad federalism arguments often do at the end of the day.
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Or more likely, they'll just capitulate, as states making bad federalism arguments often do at the end of the day.
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Not sure who to believe now, but the Texas Horsemen's Partnership is now claiming on Facebook that this would only impact the export of Texas races to outside states, not the import of simulcast signals to Texas tracks:

https://www.facebook.com/thpnews/pos...8agHAv2fe7GnYl

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Due to rampant rumors and misinformation concerning the announcement by the Texas Racing Commission on June 13th , with regard to simulcast approvals, wagering and HISA, we would like to provide our members and others in the Texas racing industry with the facts.

Wagering on live races and import simulcasting will continue as usual after July 1. Beginning July 1, the only simulcast signal that will be affected is the export of Lone Star Park's live races, to out of state receiving locations.

The Texas Racing Commission has expressed its commitment to performing their statutory duties and to provide a level of certainty to all participants in Texas racing.
Not sure if that's better or worse for Texas racing - that people who show up on track will still have other options to pick from, and there still won't be any simulcast dollars coming into the live product.

What a circus.
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Old 06-15-2022, 04:48 PM   #85
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if the Texas racing commission doesn't get their way all Texas tracks will only allow betting on Texas tracks from people in Texas only. There is not enough money in that, so they will shortly have to close all Texas tracks.
I was just wondering why you named Lone Star and not Sam Houston.
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Not sure if that's better or worse for Texas racing - that people who show up on track will still have other options to pick from, and there still won't be any simulcast dollars coming into the live product.

What a circus.
If that's true, I think it's worse. My point earlier was that if Texans can't bet out of state tracks they might bet more than usual on the Texas races. That would cushion the blow (especially because they probably keep more per dollar). This sounds like the worst of all worlds. It will be interesting to see what actually happens. It sounded to me like there are already laws in place that can't be violated, but laws can be changed.
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I was just wondering why you named Lone Star and not Sam Houston.
I think because Sam Houston's meet ends this week and the next one is not until January.
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What about Sam Houston?
They are running quarters, no thoroughbreds until next year.
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They are running quarters, no thoroughbreds until next year.
Thanks. I was just trying to learn whether there was anything unique in the law pertaining to Sam Houston. I appreciate your response.
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Getting answers and airing concerns about the fast-approaching launch of a federal program to regulate racetrack safety, and eventually drug testing and enforcement, attracted hundreds of Kentucky trainers, veterinarians, and owners to Churchill Downs in-person and virtually June 20.
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