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05-29-2020, 09:37 PM
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THIS was an incident in a BLUE city in a BLUE state - how did that happen
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You know me, Tom, never let an opening slip by. I submit that it happened
BECAUSE OF THE BLUE WALL!
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05-29-2020, 10:24 PM
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What's the official cause of death? Have they released it yet?
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05-29-2020, 10:35 PM
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What's the official cause of death? Have they released it yet?
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Covid 19
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05-29-2020, 10:36 PM
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What's the official cause of death? Have they released it yet?
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Coronavirus.
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05-29-2020, 10:43 PM
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2 minutes and 43 seconds.
The report says one office expressed concern for the suspect, George.
Another cop took his pulse.
There was no pulse.
The other cop kept his knee on his neck for another 2 minutes and 43 seconds.
This guy murdered him.
But to suggest he is representative of all cops, or even most cops is just stupid.
It is like saying ALL African Americans are rioters and looters.
That too is just stupid.
We need to deal with the two minorities - fry the cop, shoot the looters.
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My thoughts as well. Shop keepers are just middleman peddlers trying to eke out a living. The blame is not on them. IMO the looting and burning of businesses probably ends the lives of the shopkeepers as they know it. They may be breathing, but the rioting, burning and destruction, pretty much ends their lives.
The rioters are no better than the asshole cop.
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05-29-2020, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Covid 19
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Coronavirus.
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Too early?
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05-29-2020, 11:48 PM
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Just watched a SJW in MN carry 3 cases of Whiskey out of a liquor store
This should bring a complete change to the police force
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05-29-2020, 11:52 PM
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Coroner rules heart condition........?
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05-29-2020, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Just watched a SJW in MN carry 3 cases of Whiskey out of a liquor store
This should bring a complete change to the police force
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What kind of whiskey?
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05-30-2020, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Coroner rules heart condition........?
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well it is interesting that the family wants a private second autopsy.
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05-30-2020, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Coroner rules heart condition........?
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Well, it's hard to asphyxiate someone by putting pressure on the side of the neck....I suppose he could have been cutting blood supply via carotid artery?
My guess is the stress of the situation induced a heart attack? Which can cause shortness of breath of course...thus the "I can't breath."
None of this excuses the cops' actions in any way, but it explains why using that knee technique isn't meant to kill a person.
And now we have rioting all over the place...I guess nobody really cares about COVID-19 anymore.
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05-30-2020, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Well, it's hard to asphyxiate someone by putting pressure on the side of the neck....I suppose he could have been cutting blood supply via carotid artery?
My guess is the stress of the situation induced a heart attack? Which can cause shortness of breath of course...thus the "I can't breath."
None of this excuses the cops' actions in any way, but it explains why using that knee technique isn't meant to kill a person.
And now we have rioting all over the place...I guess nobody really cares about COVID-19 anymore.
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You have to wonder if he was not struggling for air, why did he say he was? Repeatedly?
From forensic medicine.....
asphyxia
http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/patholo...e-to-the-neck/
Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain, leading to cerebral hypoxia/ischaemia, anaerobic metabolism, and acidaemia/acidosis (similar to the effects of cardiac arrest on the brain (Longstreth 2001).
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05-30-2020, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
You have to wonder if he was not struggling for air, why did he say he was? Repeatedly?
From forensic medicine.....
asphyxia
http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/patholo...e-to-the-neck/
Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain, leading to cerebral hypoxia/ischaemia, anaerobic metabolism, and acidaemia/acidosis (similar to the effects of cardiac arrest on the brain (Longstreth 2001). |
I never said he wasn't struggling for air.
What's next? Gonna falsely label me a "I Can't Breathe Denier"?????
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 05-30-2020 at 03:00 AM.
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05-30-2020, 03:21 AM
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Collateral Damage
I try to be objective because I like to know the underlying causes of things and there are rights and wrongs on both sides of the current George Floyd situation. So I think I've got this right, but maybe not. Your thoughts are welcomed.
The looters are blowing off steam which is understandable. Humans break things when they get angry and frustrated. It is a defense mechanism. Better to break things than to kill someone.
However, it is terrible that businesses are being destroyed by the looters and rioters. But this is collateral damage and is similar to a drone strike on an enemy combatant that kills innocent women and children and destroys buildings that have nothing to do with the enemy. The drone strike achieved its objective which was to kill the enemy, but there was "collateral" damage and innocent civilians died. That happens in all wars.
So when the rioters destroy property in protest it is an attempt to strike back at the ones who caused the pain in the community. That's understandable. But the downside is that there is collateral damage to innocent businesses.
It is necessary for the national guard to be called in to the various communities to try to restore order and defend the community from more destruction. The danger is that the national guard goes on the offensive like they did at Kent State and starts to kill innocent people which is just more collateral damage.
The national guard killing the Kent State students helped end the Vietnam War and also helped end Nixon's presidency.
Likewise, politically, this a going to be a very tricky situation to deal with for elected officials. How they handle this and how it gets viewed by the people in the communities and citizens around the country will determine what the repercussions are, if any.
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05-30-2020, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I never said he wasn't struggling for air.
What's next? Gonna falsely label me a "I Can't Breathe Denier"?????
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Calm down. The reason I posted the link to that forensic medicine site, was to explain asphyxia may be caused b....
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Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain
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A blocked windpipe is only part of it.
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