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11-20-2012, 01:20 PM
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i have thought about this thread now since it began. i woke up at 4 this morning and turned on Fox News and saw a very mad O'Reilly crying out loud that the democrats bought this election. he had 2 people on that disagreed with him and all he did was yell at him. first of all i really think its tough for a republican to win because of people like O'Reilly and other Fox News personality's pumping their party all day long. that station is scaring real republicans away from voting for a republican candidate. more important, the republican's are not playing the geography game correctly by nominating the least likely candidates to do well due to geography.
looking ahead at the top 4 republican candidates for 2016, the one that has the very best chance to win an election against any democrat would be Paul Ryan. i have no idea if the republican party would even dare to chance it on him. there are other guys that would stand a shot that are not in the top 5 that could do very well. the country is going to need a good candidate from the republican partly like oxygen next time around.
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11-20-2012, 02:27 PM
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#167
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
...best chance to win an election against any democrat would be Paul Ryan. ...
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How do you figure? You might as well run Romney again. He's already guilty by association and represents pushing old people off a cliff, not caring about hispanohablantes and telling women what to do with their coochie. After reading the first 90% of your post, I'm amazed that this was the conclusion.
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11-20-2012, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
How do you figure? You might as well run Romney again. He's already guilty by association and represents pushing old people off a cliff, not caring about hispanohablantes and telling women what to do with their coochie. After reading the first 90% of your post, I'm amazed that this was the conclusion.
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if you look back at my post you will see that i stressed the word geography. PauL Ryan comes from the center of the country. if you look back at the last 6 elections, the winner has come from a state somewhere in the middle of the country.
the only reason i mentioned Paul Ryan was that he is one of the leaders of the pack right now. Rob Portman is not that far behind, he would make a great candidate as well.
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11-20-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
if you look back at my post you will see that i stressed the word geography. PauL Ryan comes from the center of the country. if you look back at the last 6 elections, the winner has come from a state somewhere in the middle of the country.
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But Ryan didn't even carry his own state. Either way, if I had to guess - it will be a woman, an hispanic, or a black. That's the direction the GOP pundits seem to think they need to head towards - worry secondarily about policy and platform and do whatever it takes to neuter the "angry white guy" stereotype that the Dems want to contort every issue into.
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11-20-2012, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Hint: this whole question has nothing to do with the government to begin with, nor the school systems. But other than that........what?
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Everything to do with government. The republican party is being held hostage by less than 20% of the electorate who believe in fairy tales. Someone needs to stand up to these idiots. Given his recent statements it's obvious Rubio ain't that guy.
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11-20-2012, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Everything to do with government. The republican party is being held hostage by less than 20% of the electorate who believe in fairy tales. Someone needs to stand up to these idiots. Given his recent statements it's obvious Rubio ain't that guy.
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You're growing on me.........
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11-20-2012, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
But Ryan didn't even carry his own state. Either way, if I had to guess - it will be a woman, an hispanic, or a black. That's the direction the GOP pundits seem to think they need to head towards - worry secondarily about policy and platform and do whatever it takes to neuter the "angry white guy" stereotype that the Dems want to contort every issue into.
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Paul Ryan was at the bottom of the ticket. if he is on the top end i would love to lay 5-1 on him right now to carry Wisconsin.
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11-20-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Everything to do with government. The republican party is being held hostage by less than 20% of the electorate who believe in fairy tales. Someone needs to stand up to these idiots. Given his recent statements it's obvious Rubio ain't that guy.
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I'm not a big fan of him but Rand Paul is going to be that guy.
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11-20-2012, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I'm not a big fan of him but Rand Paul is going to be that guy.
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I like rand a hell of a lot more than his dad. He seems to understand the dynamics of playing nice with others. I think after he loses the nomination he will actually support the nominee and not have a tantrum that he is not the featured guy at the convention. He's basically a more grown up version of his father.
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11-20-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I'm not a big fan of him but Rand Paul is going to be that guy.
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No. He's a whore for the Christian right just like all the rest. Calls himself a pro-life Christian. Welcomes endorsements from groups like "Concerned Women for America."
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11-20-2012, 03:28 PM
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Like some of RPauls positions, it's the delivery that sucks. And the haircut is right out of a Porky's movie
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11-20-2012, 03:36 PM
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His brand of Republicanism won't scour.
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11-20-2012, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Everything to do with government. The republican party is being held hostage by less than 20% of the electorate who believe in fairy tales. Someone needs to stand up to these idiots. Given his recent statements it's obvious Rubio ain't that guy.
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No, they need to ignore this stupid stuff and focus on the economy and national security.
Anything else is not important enough to be talked about at the federal level.
The ones who need to stood up to and told where to get off are the alleged press when then ask theses knucklehead questions.
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11-20-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
No, they need to ignore this stupid stuff and focus on the economy and national security.
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Ignoring stupid does not make it go away.
It assures that those we elect are stupids.
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