2016 election odds

[lsbets]

Wasn't Hillary the big favorite to get the Dem nomination in 2006?

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, especially because I think Rush said something along these lines, but has anyone seen Hillary on an HDTV? She looks like crap. Age has not been kind to her. Maybe she's just worn out and a couple of years off will do her good, but appearance does matter to enough voters that it makes a difference. I don't think people will vote for a big fat guy like Christie, and I don't think people will vote for a woman who looks really, really bad like she does now.

For the Dems, I think Cuomo would make a good candidate, for the Reps, Rubio or one of the governors. I don't know who would be in the Dem field right now, but I would make Cuomo the favorite if he runs.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by lsbets

Wasn't Hillary the big favorite to get the Dem nomination in 2006?

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, especially because I think Rush said something along these lines, but has anyone seen Hillary on an HDTV? She looks like crap. Age has not been kind to her. Maybe she's just worn out and a couple of years off will do her good, but appearance does matter to enough voters that it makes a difference. I don't think people will vote for a big fat guy like Christie, and I don't think people will vote for a woman who looks really, really bad like she does now.

For the Dems, I think Cuomo would make a good candidate, for the Reps, Rubio or one of the governors. I don't know who would be in the Dem field right now, but I would make Cuomo the favorite if he runs.

You won't get flamed for me on Hillary. I've been consistently on record in my belief that she's all done. At this age, through all the shit she's been through, and as nasty as this last campaign was - I just can't see her caring enough about what has become a pretty miserable job to put up with commercials about her husband and blowjobs, Gennifer Flowers, Benghazi, Whitewater, the possibility of Egypt becoming a mess, and having to be the fall guy for what will probably be a mess of an economy and healthcare system, the latter of which she doesn't even really support.

I suspect she'd like to just fade away from what politics has become lately and let the Clinton name go down in the annals of history with a mostly positive connotation and not even risk being in the crosshairs of what the next decade brings.

[PaceAdvantage]

My guess is the results of this election will embolden the Democratic party to put up a true left-wing candidate next time around. Not this half-ass Obama "let's keep lots of what Bush did intact" garbage.

That would be a positive for the Republican party. The Dems actually thinking they have some sort of mandate for their particular brand of nonsense.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

My guess is the results of this election will embolden the Democratic party to put up a true left-wing candidate next time around. Not this half-ass Obama "let's keep lots of what Bush did intact" garbage.

That would be a positive for the Republican party. The Dems actually thinking they have some sort of mandate for their particular brand of nonsense.

At this point the Dems have more of a mandate than your wonderfully out of touch Tea Party. (TP 'ers thought they had a mandate)

Besides you can't assume there will be a Republican party.

[elysiantraveller]

Rand Paul or whoever he and his movement put up.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

Besides you can't assume there will be a Republican party.

Thank you for providing my theory with actual, tangible, early proof of its validity...

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Thank you for providing my theory with actual, tangible, early proof of its validity...

Just thought I would give you some anti-left ammo . Of course I'm joking........it might take 2 or 3 election cycles before we have the Herman Cain 999 Party instead

[Stillriledup]

Rubio for the limit. I'll be bumping this 4 years from now to rub salt....

[rastajenk]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

I suspect she'd like to just fade away from what politics has become lately and let the Clinton name go down in the annals of history with a mostly positive connotation and not even risk being in the crosshairs of what the next decade brings.

That's not the Clintons I know. She may not make a run for the top job, but I don't think they are going to fade away.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

That's not the Clintons I know. She may not make a run for the top job, but I don't think they are going to fade away.

Like roaches, you think you got them all, then, one night, you turn on the kitchen light........Ba-zing!

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

That's not the Clintons I know. She may not make a run for the top job, but I don't think they are going to fade away.

Your probably right... they just seem like the type to be consumed with the "legacy"... and I just can't see it getting any better by sticking around for the immediate political future.

[Tom]

I thing they live and breath power.
She will run.

[Robert Goren]

Although there are exceptions, the republicans tend to nominate governors or former governors. Picking from the list of republican governors at this time is risking to say the least. Thing at the state level can change over night. One day Charly Crist was a darling of the party, then the next no republican would even mention his name. Thing happen. My best guess is the current VP will elect president in 2016 ala Bush41 after Reagan. Remember too Gore won the election with popular vote, but at the Supreme Court decide against him in Florida. He actually carried Florida when they actually finished recounting vote after Bush was already in office.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

He actually carried Florida when they actually finished recounting vote after Bush was already in office.

No he didn't. In fact, just the opposite was concluded. Although, in the end, it seems nobody really knows.

I offer you this...the media consortium recount:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the...count-of-2000/

According to a massive months-long study commissioned by eight news organizations in 2001, George W. Bush probably still would have won even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a limited statewide recount to go forward as ordered by Florida’s highest court.

Bush also probably would have won had the state conducted the limited recount of only four heavily Democratic counties that Al Gore asked for, the study found.

On the other hand, the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount. The Florida Supreme Court ordered only a recount of so-called "undervotes," about 62,000 ballots where voting machines didn’t detect any vote for a presidential candidate.

None of these findings are certain.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Pesky facts escaping Goren once again.