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Old 08-16-2017, 10:55 PM   #31
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You mean you want to discredit the mainstream media so that no one listens to them as they continue to tell the truth.
The modern mainstream media is largely made up of vile disgusting excrement that have made truth and honest intellectual debate secondary to personal politics, ratings, and money. No institution could possibly disgust me more because we are counting on them to inform us.

Just because you call yourself Antifa (anti fascist) does not mean you behave in a civilized manner or are any less of a scumbag. In this case it just means you are a different kind of scumbag.

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Old 08-17-2017, 08:03 AM   #32
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Mostpost, why do you LIE on such an epic scale? Do you ever espouse your views in an actual public venue? You like the internet, don't you? It's so easy to post push-button nonsense, just so you can get a rise out of someone, with no immediate consequences for such inflammatory and inciteful venom you spew forth.......I truly don't believe you're from this planet. PA Mike let's you post here because you represent the worst in lunatic liberalism, and yet you think you're not part of the problem?....Your way of thinking IS the problem, but by all means continue to make a fool of yourself on a daily basis.

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That can't be a serious question. The guy insults people constantly many times out of nowhere to people who have not even directed comments at him. If he took his act out in public he would not last a day before someone beat his ass. Even if you are old and frail mouthing off to the wrong person can have things end badly for you. I am guessing he was bullied as a child and was too big of a coward to fight back, now decades later mouthing off hiding behind a keyboard empowers him. There has to be some psychological reason for his behavior. On the handful of internet forms I go to and one has 25,000 members, there is only one other person I know of who behaves like him.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:49 AM   #33
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Thask asked if there is too much freedom. Yes, there is too much freedom when people ignore the obligation to exercise any Constitutional right responsibly.

The basic facts. People have the right to assemble to express their opinions. Only one of the two groups, that clashed, had the legally protected right to be present that day and at that place. The group who followed procedures to obtain the permit to hold a rally.

Another organized group, without a permit, assembled possessing items which could be used as weapons and defensive paraphernalia, with the purpose to oppose the legally permitted rally. A group, without a permit, assembling with weapons, defensive devices and dressed for some sort of physical violence is a mob. A mob intending to do violence against others is not a responsible exercising of Constitutional rights. Yet this mob formed to perform physical violence is being treated as the victims and morally superior.

Complete b.s. They are a mob. A mob bent on committing unnecessary violence. Any time a mob is allowed to commit unnecessary violence, that is too much freedom.

The mayor and the local police department are at fault, for the violence. The police, did not do their job. As soon as the law enforcement superiors observed the mob, the non-permitted mob, with weapons, defensive devices and the type of dressing, law enforcement should have dispersed the mob.

Law enforcement's excuse was they were outgunned. Out gunned by a mob wanting to engage in violence against demonstrators granted a permit to hold the rally. If that is true, the mayor and police officials are inept and should be called out as such.

I purposely stripped out the ideologies of the two groups, so the objective facts can demonstrate the differences between too much freedom and responsible use of freedom.

We cannot legitimize violence or protect mob violence as a legitimate exercise of the Constitutional right to disagree with another's opinions, by claiming the moral high ground satisfies the requirement to exercise a right responsibly. Allowing such is too much freedom.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:17 AM   #34
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The other day Obama said. "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..."
Sounds great, but how would he know. He and the left believe you are born to be gay, trans, or whatever. How does he know there is no hate gene - just saying.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:22 AM   #35
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Sounds great, but how would he know. He and the left believe you are born to be gay, trans, or whatever. How does he know there is no hate gene - just saying.

I know I was born with an aversion to homosexual behavior. Even as a small child I didn't feel comfortable being touched by another male. Something like my uncle or dad hugging me I did not like, that was long before I even knew what a homosexual was. I had no problem with women showing physical affection toward me. The first time I remember seeing two guys in public who were an obvious gay couple holding hands I immediately looked away. Of course in the eyes of the left how I was born makes me a bad person. I have nothing against homosexuals, I just don't want to be in view of homosexual behavior.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:49 AM   #36
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Sounds great, but how would he know. He and the left believe you are born to be gay, trans, or whatever. How does he know there is no hate gene - just saying.
Members of the left are omniscient - especially those in positions of power - and the sooner we all learn that the better off we will be.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:12 PM   #37
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I have nothing against homosexuals, I just don't want to be in view of homosexual behavior.
Of course you have something against them. You basically wrote a whole paragraph on what you have against them.

Be the man you claim to be and at least own up to it...jeez...

I don't care what adults do among themselves one iota...

And I don't feel threatened by homosexuals one bit. I don't understand really, why any hetero male would feel threatened so much, by even the sight of a homosexual couple, that they feel the need to look away.

Why do you care so much? I don't.
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Of course you have something against them. You basically wrote a whole paragraph on what you have against them.

Be the man you claim to be and at least own up to it...jeez...

I don't care what adults do among themselves one iota...

And I don't feel threatened by homosexuals one bit. I don't understand really, why any hetero male would feel threatened so much, by even the sight of a homosexual couple, that they feel the need to look away.

Why do you care so much? I don't.

I did own it, it seems every time I make a comment about how I am uncomfortable witnessing homosexual behavior you seem to have to comment and put me down. Why is that? Like I said I was born that way.
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I didn't put you down. I pointed out that you contradicted yourself mightily, whether you know it or not.

Don't say you don't have anything against homosexuals when you clearly do. It's laughable. I have a right to my opinion on anything posted here just as much as you do.
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I've had gay friends, male and female. I've had them live at my home for short periods of time. I gotta admit when two guys kiss it makes me want to look away. I can't recall any of the gals doing that in front of me......
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:33 PM   #41
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I've had gay friends, male and female. I've had them live at my home for short periods of time. I gotta admit when two guys kiss it makes me want to look away. I can't recall any of the gals doing that in front of me......
I'm not sure where you guys hang out, but I'm in NYC all the time, and I can't recall the last time I saw two guys making out...even heteros aren't making out in public all the time, don't see much of that either.

I'd probably be just as uncomfortable watching a guy and a girl go at it hot and heavy in public as I would be two guys...both sets need to get a room...
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Sounds great, but how would he know. He and the left believe you are born to be gay, trans, or whatever. How does he know there is no hate gene - just saying.
Obama was quoting Nelson Mandela in that tweet, those aren’t his words.
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I've had gay friends, male and female. I've had them live at my home for short periods of time. I gotta admit when two guys kiss it makes me want to look away.I can't recall any of the gals doing that in front of me......
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My take is if the counter protestors ignore the KKK and the like their voice and numbers will diminish. They crave attention and use it as a recruiting tool. If the counter protestors just let them make fools of themselves and there is no one there except the Klan and police you will get 5% of the news coverage that melee in Charlottesville got. Without their dumb asses in bed sheets parading all over the TV and internet most people will forget they exist, and consider them a thing of the past.
20/20 just ran an hour special on Richard Spencer and Matthew Heimbach two individuals who are both dangerous people if given a platform and media attention. Their message is to spread hate in areas of the country hurt by stale job growth. The show brought out the groups intent to make America White again. They were also fueled by Trump after one of their own drove into a crowd killing one and injuring dozens. Their message is clear it is pure hate for everyone and anything that isn't pure white. The worst part of their movement is most are too ignorant to understand what the movement is all about.
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20/20 just ran an hour special on Richard Spencer and Matthew Heimbach two individuals who are both dangerous people if given a platform and media attention. Their message is to spread hate in areas of the country hurt by stale job growth. The show brought out the groups intent to make America White again. They were also fueled by Trump after one of their own drove into a crowd killing one and injuring dozens. Their message is clear it is pure hate for everyone and anything that isn't pure white. The worst part of their movement is most are too ignorant to understand what the movement is all about.
"fueled by Trump" BS
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