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Old 08-15-2017, 07:15 PM   #1
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suspicious race at Mountaineer

5f mdn sp wt on the turf.

Short synopsis, #1 and #2 take up on the turn for no apparent reason, opening the rail up for #5, who is 5-1 on the board. #5 wins, now board shows 3-1. #2, by the way, is a heavy favorite. One man's opinion: it stinks of chicanery.

Anyone else see this race??
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:36 PM   #2
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without having seen the head on (not on Twinspires yet)...

the innocent explanation would be that the 1 was very rank and the jockey yanked his head sideways to prevent worse carnage..taking the 2 and 6 out of the race in the process.
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:49 PM   #3
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5f mdn sp wt on the turf.

Short synopsis, #1 and #2 take up on the turn for no apparent reason, opening the rail up for #5, who is 5-1 on the board. #5 wins, now board shows 3-1. #2, by the way, is a heavy favorite. One man's opinion: it stinks of chicanery.

Anyone else see this race??
The 1,2, and 6 pulled-up, abruptly.

The 7 was the the only horse in front of them, and wasn't stopping.

The 8 was patiently ridden, especially when he passed the 5 on his own power on the back stretch, but may not have been involved in the trouble that caused the 1,2,6 to be abruptly pulled-up out of contention.

Upon viewing the head-on, the 7 was wider and not in the path of the 1,2, or 6.

Upon reading the chart, the chart-caller says that the 1 steadied in tight, and the chart caller missed the trouble with the 2 and the 6.

I do not know what happened.



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Old 08-15-2017, 08:08 PM   #4
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1 was not impeded in any way. Looks like the horse going by on it's outside (7?) startled the 1 and impeded the 2.

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Old 08-15-2017, 09:46 PM   #5
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The odds on the 5 were flashed on the video 17 seconds into the race and showed 3/1. That was long before the incident in case you were suggesting there was some after the bell cancellation or past posting or something.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:42 PM   #6
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i think the #1 horse (Indygo Humor) was spooked by the #7 horse and might have even starting climbing a bit at which point the jockey basically panicked and pulled the horse up.

it's amazing that the official chart lists that as merely "steadying along the quarter pole" and having at least mentioned that much said nothing about the other two horses having somewhat unfortunate trips.

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chartcaller did a crap job on that writeup, no doubt. 2 and 6 were significantly impeded, and the 1 had 100-200 yards of big league trouble where he was being yanked on and not ridden out.
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:36 AM   #8
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The only thing suspicious about this race is that I actually thought it was a good idea to bet it. What a horrible race.
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Any way to read the official stewards' review?
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:50 AM   #10
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chartcaller did a crap job on that writeup, no doubt. 2 and 6 were significantly impeded, and the 1 had 100-200 yards of big league trouble where he was being yanked on and not ridden out.
Not a fan of mnr's chart crew. And that's putting it mildly. VERY mildly.

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Old 08-20-2017, 12:14 AM   #11
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What does ridden out mean?
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What does ridden out mean?
If the jockey continued to persevere through the wire, or not.

In this case, horses were actually pulled up.
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