The Official Del Mar Meet Thread. The Good-The Bad-The Ugly.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

Have you looked at the cards?

Not really, just a few.

Just saying, if the fields are anemic, which they well could be, there is still angles and money that can be made cause chalk is losing.

Better than this 40-50% chalk the past month I have been betting into at Belmont.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

Yes, cards have been anemic. P. Millers horses aren't running at all. Gonna auto toss him till he wins one.

The prophet strikes again.

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

The prophet strikes again.

Yeah, we should've known that was going to happen. Especially since it was the higher priced of the uncoupled entry. Weird how often that happens with choir boys Miller and Baffert.

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

Not really, just a few.

Just saying, if the fields are anemic, which they well could be, there is still angles and money that can be made cause chalk is losing.

Better than this 40-50% chalk the past month I have been betting into at Belmont.

I'm not sure how you can say that unless you've actually looked at the cards, but whatever.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

The prophet strikes again.

LOL 10/1

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

I'm not sure how you can say that unless you've actually looked at the cards, but whatever.

I guess I just didnt make my point well, which was that there has been price horses winning, which is always a good thing in terms of what i like to see (since I rarely, if ever, bet shorter prices).

[GMB@BP]

Looking at the charts, looks like an inside bias....

better send Arrogate to the lead

[Andy Asaro]

Sent to email list.

Very hard for me to stay cool though these comments. The newer people on the list have been privy to a plan that will grow handle and revenue. Baedecker doesn’t seem to understand that certain conditions won’t fill at 3 days either. And when he asks what the Customer wants I’ve laid it out in previous emails with along with the marketing plan. The only guy quoted that knows what he’s talking about in this article is Alan Balch.

What about what the Customer wants Rick? The Customer wants real experts to make decisions and not experts pretending to be experts. That goes for Avioli too.

It’s Pool Size – Field Size – Takeout and not necessarily in that order.

And most of the “experts” think like this……….. “Field Size is Everything”. Ok, how do you get bigger field size? “In order to get bigger field size you need bigger purses” they say. Ok, how do you get bigger purses? Then they realize that there’s only two ways. You either grow handle and revenue or you raise takeout. Now we’re back to 2010 when California had the biggest takeout hike in its history when the windfall from SB1072 was supposed to fix everything. That’s why your core Customers are aggravated and leaving to bet elsewhere.


We never quit,

A


"What about what the customer wants?" Baedeker asked

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...k-racing-dates

[Andy Asaro]

Saturday 2017 = $15,216,221

Saturday 2016 = $11,691,964

Saturday 2015 = $9,465,257

Sunday isn’t official yet from CHRIMS. Should be this afternoon.

Even though overall handle on races run at Del Mar were down three years in a row, and on opening day this year, Saturday was a HUGE day. And that is great news for Del Mar. There is still hope despite the Racing Dates committee implying that California Racing is going out of business.

Again, there are adjustments and a marketing plan out there that could help increase handle and revenue a lot more. If you could increase handle another 20% and revenue 5% would you make that deal? Of course you would.

We never quit,

[Andy Asaro]

Sunday July 23rd 2017 = $10,954,763

Sunday 2016 = $11,385,547

Sunday 2015 = $9,918,145

Friday would have to be considered up significantly if compared to 2015. Last year Friday was an opening day.

All in all, other than opening day a very positive week for handle.

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

Saturday 2017 = $15,216,221

Saturday 2016 = $11,691,964

Saturday 2015 = $9,465,257

Sunday isn’t official yet from CHRIMS. Should be this afternoon.

Even though overall handle on races run at Del Mar were down three years in a row, and on opening day this year, Saturday was a HUGE day. And that is great news for Del Mar. There is still hope despite the Racing Dates committee implying that California Racing is going out of business.

Again, there are adjustments and a marketing plan out there that could help increase handle and revenue a lot more. If you could increase handle another 20% and revenue 5% would you make that deal? Of course you would.

We never quit,

From equibase.com historical charts
Sat July 23, 2016 The feature was the San Diego Handicap....California Chrome, Dortmund
Attendance 21,336 All Sources handle....$17.5 million...10 races 70 starters
Sun July 24th 2016....Attendance 11, 687 All Sources $14.3.10 races 80 starters...Handle figs are rounded off to the nearest 100,000
Saratoga,,,Same dates, same year
Sat Attendance 30,708 Handle 23.3 million...11 races 105 starters
Sun Attendance 36,136 Handle 21.0 million 11 races 101 starters.
it is my understanding that So Cal counts in track handle monies bet on other tracks in simulcasting. NYRA does not.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by thespaah

From equibase.com historical charts
Sat July 23, 2016 The feature was the San Diego Handicap....California Chrome, Dortmund
Attendance 21,336 All Sources handle....$17.5 million...10 races 70 starters
Sun July 24th 2016....Attendance 11, 687 All Sources $14.3.10 races 80 starters...Handle figs are rounded off to the nearest 100,000
Saratoga,,,Same dates, same year
Sat Attendance 30,708 Handle 23.3 million...11 races 105 starters
Sun Attendance 36,136 Handle 21.0 million 11 races 101 starters.
it is my understanding that So Cal counts in track handle monies bet on other tracks in simulcasting. NYRA does not.

Most tracks use all sources.

The attachments I put up earlier are handle on races run at Del Mar only. Equibase figures come close.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Got one 4-1 shot at Saratoga this weekend and was mostly scratching my head. Got 2 wins including a 10-1 on dirt at Del Mar(shocker!) but had 4 wins and 1 second on turf. So far what is lacking in field size is making up for in predictability. At least in my game!

[alhattab]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

Sunday July 23rd 2017 = $10,954,763

Sunday 2016 = $11,385,547

Sunday 2015 = $9,918,145

Friday would have to be considered up significantly if compared to 2015. Last year Friday was an opening day.

All in all, other than opening day a very positive week for handle.

How important is the later start in your view? I believe first Saturday last year was 7/16? Also the first Sat had to suffer a bit from Opening Day hangover, literally and figuratively?

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by alhattab

How important is the later start in your view? I believe first Saturday last year was 7/16? Also the first Sat had to suffer a bit from Opening Day hangover, literally and figuratively?

The last time they ran opening day on a Wed. was in 2013 (pretty sure). That would be the best meet to compare. Unfortunately I can only go back to 2015 at the CHRIMS handle reports on Ca. Racing.com

They've been down 3 years in a row so it's hard not to be up at this year.