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08-05-2017, 10:35 PM
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majority of his horses ran on
Stakes today. He is going against higher caliber horses.
He had two favs in a race last week, it was a allowance race..both horses just broke msw, but now going against Allowance company, and both did not run great, i think one of them finished 3rd...In the field, 4 horses had allowance experience and all of them horses broke maidens 6 months back or more. So you do not want to play both Brown entries in this scenario. If you have 4 horses, with vast experience edge in a allowance race over Brown horses, you key the those horses at the top 2 spots and maybe key Brown at the bottom of the exotics.
you got to be really patient, and just wait it out, until Brown gives you two MSW horses in a race, and it has to be a route or a AOC race, in Saratoga.
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08-05-2017, 10:46 PM
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Today in a MSW turf race
pretty much all first time starters
Two horses had worked over the turf , 3 times apiece= 6 times
Rest of the field combined 7 work outs over the turf= 8 horses
exacta paid $ 294
william mott/todd pletcher combo
if you are going to run the horse over the turf, in a msw race, you prefer multiple work outs over the turf. you know the trainer is serious about the race.
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08-06-2017, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n.c
Stakes today. He is going against higher caliber horses.
He had two favs in a race last week, it was a allowance race..both horses just broke msw, but now going against Allowance company, and both did not run great, i think one of them finished 3rd...In the field, 4 horses had allowance experience and all of them horses broke maidens 6 months back or more. So you do not want to play both Brown entries in this scenario. If you have 4 horses, with vast experience edge in a allowance race over Brown horses, you key the those horses at the top 2 spots and maybe key Brown at the bottom of the exotics.
you got to be really patient, and just wait it out, until Brown gives you two MSW horses in a race, and it has to be a route or a AOC race, in Saratoga.
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Hey N C
You bring up a good point regarding Brown and Stakes races at Saratoga his horses have been 0 for their last 6 in Stakes races and it could be he's going up against better competition
I'm going to stay away from his horses in Stakes races and wait for his other races like Allowance Optional or Maiden as you say patience might be the key with this guy
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08-06-2017, 09:35 AM
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Brown has an entry today that fits the criteria as less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and is going 1 Mile and over on the Turf at Saratoga
4th race
#10
Follow the Signs
Let's see if he can get this one to follow the signs with a win today!!!
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08-06-2017, 10:40 PM
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Brown has an entry today that fits the criteria as less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and is going 1 Mile and over on the Turf at Saratoga
4th race
#10
Follow the Signs
Let's see if he can get this one to follow the signs with a win today!!!
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If I had followed the signs from yesterday I would have avoided Brown's horses as #10 Follow the Signs finished off the board today for Brown at Saratoga!!!
His horses have now lost 8 straight since yesterday!!!
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08-10-2017, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
Brown's Maidens on the Turf going 1 Mile or better when they are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line are giving you a 92% return going back to July 22nd 2016 at Saratoga!!!
Let's keep an eye out for his Maidens on the Turf going 1 Mile or better at Saratoga!!!
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Since this post Brown's win streak was snapped at 4 in a row as his Maiden Follow the Signs finished off the board last week at Saratoga
You are still getting a 77% return so far per $2 win wager in this situation with his horses and a 31% return per $2 win place and show wager which is not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!
He has another Maiden today entered in the Morning Line at less than 3-1 and going 1 1/16 Miles in the 3rd race today at Saratoga
3rd race
#4 Dooder
Let's see if the Dood can get the win today to right the ship for Brown!!!
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08-10-2017, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Since this post Brown's win streak was snapped at 4 in a row as his Maiden Follow the Signs finished off the board last week at Saratoga
You are still getting a 77% return so far per $2 win wager in this situation with his horses and a 31% return per $2 win place and show wager which is not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!
He has another Maiden today entered in the Morning Line at less than 3-1 and going 1 1/16 Miles in the 3rd race today at Saratoga
3rd race
#4 Dooder
Let's see if the Dood can get the win today to right the ship for Brown!!!
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Well it turns out the Dood was not a Dud #4 Dooder came through today for Brown and broke his Maiden paying $9.70 across the board!!!
This now makes it 9 of 14 for Brown's Maidens on the Turf when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line going 1 Mile or over on the Turf you are getting an 80% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!
You are also getting a 33% return per $2 win place and show wager since July 22nd 2016!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the #4 Dooder play and were able to make a profit!!!
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08-11-2017, 11:43 AM
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For the past 3 years C C Brown's Maidens on the Turf when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line going 1 Mile or better have been quite solid at Saratoga!!!
You are getting a 46% return on your money per $2 win wager you are also getting a 33.7% return per $2 win and place wager not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!
Now that he has aligned the ship with a win yesterday let's see if he can keep the consistency going with #4 Cashless Society in the 10th race today!!!
10th race
#4 Cashless Society
Let's see if the economics angle will bring home a win today and put some cash back into the society!!!
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08-11-2017, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
For the past 3 years C C Brown's Maidens on the Turf when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line going 1 Mile or better have been quite solid at Saratoga!!!
You are getting a 46% return on your money per $2 win wager you are also getting a 33.7% return per $2 win and place wager not too shabby for some projected Favorites!!!
Now that he has aligned the ship with a win yesterday let's see if he can keep the consistency going with #4 Cashless Society in the 10th race today!!!
10th race
#4 Cashless Society
Let's see if the economics angle will bring home a win today and put some cash back into the society!!!
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Correction:
The 10th race is a Claiming race so #4 Cashless Society will not qualify for the study
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08-12-2017, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Correction:
The 10th race is a Claiming race so #4 Cashless Society will not qualify for the study
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Well we backed into a win as #4 Cashless Society came through and won for Brown yesterday at Saratoga but it will not qualify for the study!!!!
Sometimes you just have to take what they give you!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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08-12-2017, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Well it turns out the Dood was not a Dud #4 Dooder came through today for Brown and broke his Maiden paying $9.70 across the board!!!
This now makes it 9 of 14 for Brown's Maidens on the Turf when less than 3-1 in the Morning Line going 1 Mile or over on the Turf you are getting an 80% return on your money per $2 win wager!!!
You are also getting a 33% return per $2 win place and show wager since July 22nd 2016!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the #4 Dooder play and were able to make a profit!!!
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Brown has this today in the 6th race at Saratoga
6th
#8 Sportswear
Let's see if he can get this one to win today and make it 2 in a row for this situation!!!
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08-13-2017, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Brown has this today in the 6th race at Saratoga
6th
#8 Sportswear
Let's see if he can get this one to win today and make it 2 in a row for this situation!!!
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Brown disappointed with #8 Sportswear yesterday as he was off the board
He had this today at Saratoga with Morning Lines less than 3-1 going 1 Mile or better on the Turf in a Maiden race:
10th race
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Data Room
1A
Culture Carrier
This was scratched would have been interesting to see if he could have gotten the entry to win today at the Spa!!!
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08-17-2017, 12:40 PM
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Brown has this today in the 7th race at
7th race
#1
Taperge
This fits the profile of being less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and going 1 Mile or better on the Turf!!!
Although, this is not a Maiden race let's see if he can get this one to win today at Saratoga!!!
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08-17-2017, 11:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Brown has this today in the 7th race at
7th race
#1
Taperge
This fits the profile of being less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and going 1 Mile or better on the Turf!!!
Although, this is not a Maiden race let's see if he can get this one to win today at Saratoga!!!
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Well this was our 2nd winner today as #1 Taperge won for Brown paying $10.60 across the board at Saratoga today!!!
You are getting a 26% return when his horses are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line and going 1 Mile or better on the Turf!!!
Let's continue to keep an eye on his horses in this situation I especially like his Maidens in this situation!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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08-20-2017, 08:20 AM
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brown has couple of multiple entries
msw on turf..let us see if it finishes 1-2 , 1-3
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