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11-01-2021, 01:16 AM
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the movie industry has been glamorizing guns for years
Eric and Dog talk about armourer
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11-01-2021, 02:15 AM
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Why, coupled with the budgets motion pictures have and advancements in special effects would there EVER be a need to use a real weapon?
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11-01-2021, 06:15 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Why, coupled with the budgets motion pictures have and advancements in special effects would there EVER be a need to use a real weapon?
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Very simple, it is the easiest way to go. Just need people who have brains to follow rules and protocols.
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11-01-2021, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave
Why, coupled with the budgets motion pictures have and advancements in special effects would there EVER be a need to use a real weapon?
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I had the same question shortly after this happened.
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11-01-2021, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave
Why, coupled with the budgets motion pictures have and advancements in special effects would there EVER be a need to use a real weapon?
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less expensive and trying to keep more dollars for the onscreen 'talent'
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11-01-2021, 10:23 PM
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Why the hell was he pointing the gun at her in the first place
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11-02-2021, 10:52 AM
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Alec Baldwin is a complete jerk. And although the prospect of manslaughter charges sounds unjust-regardless of his status as some sort of "co-producer" on the set-he is a very hard guy to root for.
And that has zero to do with his politics or Trump impersonations. Just a thoroughly detestable dude.
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11-02-2021, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Very simple, it is the easiest way to go. Just need people who have brains to follow rules and protocols.
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When you first pick up a gun check to see if it is loaded, never point it at anything you don't intend to shoot. I grew up around cops, I was taught that and fired my first real gun at 7.
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11-02-2021, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
less expensive and trying to keep more dollars for the onscreen 'talent'
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Heh heh heh......you said talent.
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11-02-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
Alec Baldwin is a complete jerk. And although the prospect of manslaughter charges sounds unjust-regardless of his status as some sort of "co-producer" on the set-he is a very hard guy to root for.
And that has zero to do with his politics or Trump impersonations. Just a thoroughly detestable dude.
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What do you mean the charge is unjust... lets remove the "prop" from this situation. In any other circumstances if a person was handed a gun and told it was "cold" and that person point and pulled the trigger and killed someone. The prosecuting attorney would be stating rightfully so that you failed to confirm that and your willful negligence resulted in someones death. Guilty as charged.... but some how add the chaos of a movie production and toss in "prop" that somehow removes all personal responsibility in gun safety. Nah that should compound the double checking Also a cold gun is clear nothing but air in the chamber... something he could of confirmed in a second or two. Dumby rounds... no primers seated..what 5 to 10 seconds. Blanks in under 30 seconds to check for crimped casings and weed out live rounds.
There are no accidents with guns... only negligence. Either willful or ingonrence but negligence all the same.
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11-02-2021, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by don
Why the hell was he pointing the gun at her in the first place
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He was pointing at the camera, rehearsing a close up shot.
The director n cinematographer were sitting in close next to the camera
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11-03-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
lets remove the "prop" from this situation.
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Ignore the context and circumstances? No, let's not. Because no DA, judge or defense team will.
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11-03-2021, 04:23 PM
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Could Alec Baldwin's fake Spanish wife get any skinnier? One ponders...
He should follow whatever diet she is on...he really lets himself go at times...lol
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11-03-2021, 04:41 PM
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They can try and shift blame all they like... just makes them look worse. Cause if we take that at face value... it means the guns ammo were not controlled and secured. So I guess they ran the place like the 2020 election... nothing locked up and no chain of custody.
Like I said before... with the chaos of a set environment the lack of basic GUN safty by Baldwin caused this... in the end a simple inspection by him would of immediately prevented this... but hey he took their word on it and it was make believe fanticy and beyond that the GUN was labeled a prop. Props don't kill... negligent people do. This would of... hell this never happened with John Wayne... Audie Murphy or Clint Eastwood. Why cause they owned guns... not props.
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