Traditional views: No eating/no partying

[newtothegame]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I guess I am on an island, the only correlation with the business you manage
and the baker is when it comes to selling standard stocking items. On that front the baker is just like you.



You should be comparing yourself to the restaurant only as they denied all service, the Christian baker did not do that.


The baker was targeted, and they did it to him again recently for not wanting to make a transsexual cake.

I said the restaurant should of fulfilled their commitment.
As too the baker being targeted again, well he put himself in that boat!!!
He allowed his personal beliefs to over ride his business acumen.

I dont believe in shooting people, yet I have watched many crime shows.
I dont believe in doing drugs, yet some of my friends partake in a joint every now and then.
I don't believe in drinking, yet some of my friends have a glass of alcohol....
You see Inner, if I am reading you correctly, you HATE the fact that liberals push their agenda on others. I fully agree with that....
Its not much different then Box getting on here and telling me how I may burn in hell as I dont subscribe to his thought process lol
But here is where I disagree......I dont bother libs, and I dont allow them to bother me. I dont share my bedroom with others, and dont want them to share with me.
I have my opinions but I also know that my opinions aren't for everyone. Because of that, I FULLY UNDERSTAND they are MY opinions and should remain as such unless asked for.
I am not so closed minded so as not to be able to listen to others. Hell, who knows, I may learn something I didn't know......

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

I said the restaurant should of fulfilled their commitment.
As too the baker being targeted again, well he put himself in that boat!!!
He allowed his personal beliefs to over ride his business acumen.

I dont believe in shooting people, yet I have watched many crime shows.
I dont believe in doing drugs, yet some of my friends partake in a joint every now and then.
I don't believe in drinking, yet some of my friends have a glass of alcohol....
You see Inner, if I am reading you correctly, you HATE the fact that liberals push their agenda on others. I fully agree with that....
Its not much different then Box getting on here and telling me how I may burn in hell as I dont subscribe to his thought process lol
But here is where I disagree......I dont bother libs, and I dont allow them to bother me. I dont share my bedroom with others, and dont want them to share with me.
I have my opinions but I also know that my opinions aren't for everyone. Because of that, I FULLY UNDERSTAND they are MY opinions and should remain as such unless asked for.
I am not so closed minded so as not to be able to listen to others. Hell, who knows, I may learn something I didn't know......

Well said!

[dnlgfnk]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

I said the restaurant should of fulfilled their commitment.

But here is where I disagree......I dont bother libs, and I dont allow them to bother me. I dont share my bedroom with others, and dont want them to share with me.
I have my opinions but I also know that my opinions aren't for everyone. Because of that, I FULLY UNDERSTAND they are MY opinions and should remain as such unless asked for.
I am not so closed minded so as not to be able to listen to others. Hell, who knows, I may learn something I didn't know......

"How it started...How it's going..."

Your "libs" don't want your toleration. That was achieved culturally at warp speed. They want your approval.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

Yes they do differ at times..... A business (and just so you don't try and play these ring around the Rosie games) A FOR PROFIT business is in business for one main reason. If that means that sometimes you swallow your pride as a gesture to get to the end, then you do that. If you chose not to do it, because you are some sanctimonious, higher then though person, then you will be more subject to what your clientele reflects.

Listen, at the end of the day, the baker made a choice. There were consequences for that choice. The restaurant made a choice, they too will have consequences.
You may care what happens in someones bedroom, I personally do NOT!

What happens in someone's bedroom behind closed doors is not my business, and I could care less. But if someone tries to drag me into their bedroom to get me to approve and applaud their brand of sexual activity, then that's on THEM! They should keep their sexual lifestyles to themselves -- behind those closed bedroom doors. And they should understand that not everyone in the world is going to share their views on morality.

Doc basically nailed it on the head. The ungodly always seek the world's approval and acceptance; for very often they cannot tolerate rejection. They live to feel good, and they can't feel good if someone else rejects their lifestyle. Christians, on the other hand, don't live for themselves. They live for Christ who gave himself for them. Christians big concern is maintaining a clean conscience -- not cultivating good feelings. (Although certainly feeling good about oneself will follow in the wake of maintaining that good conscience.)

Also, a pious Christian is concerned about obeying the objective Law of Christ, as that is revealed in the bible. He's not a moral relativist who thinks the end justifies the means. (For example, I'm in business only to make money, so I'll do whatever it takes to cater to my customers' whims or needs.) Such thoughts wouldn't even enter into a God-fearing Christian's mind. His conscience is sensitive to leading a double life -- one inside his business and one outside. A Christian doesn't compartmentalise his life. His biggest concern is living his life 24/7 for his Lord and Savior under any and all circumstances.

Of course, I don't expect you or any other unbeliever to understand this since the Christian life and the ways of the world are at polar opposites.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by dnlgfnk

Your "libs" don't want your toleration. That was achieved culturally at warp speed. They want your approval.

They don't want your approval. They would settle for your indifference.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What happens in someone's bedroom behind closed doors is not my business, and I could care less. But if someone tries to drag me into their bedroom to get me to approve and applaud their brand of sexual activity, then that's on THEM!

You mean people have attempted to drag you into their bedrooms in order to gain your approval and applause for their perverted sexual behavior?

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

I have to assume that you may be referring to me (since Box's reply was to me)???

If not, then my apologies. If so, then here is my reply to you.....

Where did I say anything about being fine with discriminatory practices by Muslims and not Christians?

Pretty sure I said that both the restaurant and the baker were subject to whatever their clientele choses to hand out to them as consequences. As for any judicial consequences, I dont make laws. I only stated my opinion here that business should serve the consumer who graces their place of business and wants to help them pay their bills!

That was not directed at you, sorry if you thought it was. It is a common practice in this country it seems to attack Christians for the same thing they won't berate Muslims for. I just differentiate between what the restaurant did compared to the baker, it seems most don't. I don't think anyone should be forced to make a custom item that they don't want to.


I firmly believe that baker was targeted on that gay wedding cake, he definitely was on the recent transgender cake scandal. The cake was a while back, but I think I recall he had a Christian symbol in the window any of the gay people I have known would have known of a gay friendly baker and never
went in the Christian bakery wanting a custom gay wedding cake.

[Tom]

Find a known democrat baker, and go order a F*** You Biden cake, and a Obama is a Racist Pig cake.

Get back to me......

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

You mean people have attempted to drag you into their bedrooms in order to gain your approval and applause for their perverted sexual behavior?

I had a friend whose car broke down in the pre cell phone days in Palm Springs, Ca. (a gay mecca) he got picked up by a large man who put his hand on his knee and mentioned how good he was at oral sex. My friend jumped out at the next red light and took off running.
Had another friend who was taking a leak and the guy next to him said he smelled nice.


The gay people I knew said gay people are like any other and don't enjoy rejection, so something made those guys think they had a chance, off course I have fun bringing that up.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Tom

Find a known democrat baker, and go order a F*** You Biden cake, and a Obama is a Racist Pig cake.

Get back to me......

Oddly enough I don't see political beliefs being a protected class anywhere.
Religious beliefs are protected under the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

[newtothegame]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What happens in someone's bedroom behind closed doors is not my business, and I could care less. But if someone tries to drag me into their bedroom to get me to approve and applaud their brand of sexual activity, then that's on THEM! They should keep their sexual lifestyles to themselves -- behind those closed bedroom doors. And they should understand that not everyone in the world is going to share their views on morality.

Doc basically nailed it on the head. The ungodly always seek the world's approval and acceptance; for very often they cannot tolerate rejection. They live to feel good, and they can't feel good if someone else rejects their lifestyle. Christians, on the other hand, don't live for themselves. They live for Christ who gave himself for them. Christians big concern is maintaining a clean conscience -- not cultivating good feelings. (Although certainly feeling good about oneself will follow in the wake of maintaining that good conscience.)

Also, a pious Christian is concerned about obeying the objective Law of Christ, as that is revealed in the bible. He's not a moral relativist who thinks the end justifies the means. (For example, I'm in business only to make money, so I'll do whatever it takes to cater to my customers' whims or needs.) Such thoughts wouldn't even enter into a God-fearing Christian's mind. His conscience is sensitive to leading a double life -- one inside his business and one outside. A Christian doesn't compartmentalise his life. His biggest concern is living his life 24/7 for his Lord and Savior under any and all circumstances.

Of course, I don't expect you or any other unbeliever to understand this since the Christian life and the ways of the world are at polar opposites.

lmao!!! you have no clue what I believe or dont believe. But Ill give you a clue..... I dont believe in YOU! So what you have to say means very little to me. If we agree on a topic, ok....If we disagree on a topic, thats OK with me as well. Thats where you and I draw the line..... I won't force feed anyone "you have to believe my way or else" as you do regularly here. You are NO different than the LIBS you claim to protest. You just attempt to mask yours through the "word" of Christ of which you believe gives you some moral or high ground. It really doesn't Box! I am sure the lord approves of you attempted to degrade everyone with your insulting comments....

[dnlgfnk]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

They don't want your approval. They would settle for your indifference.

The city of Philadelphia refused to contract with Catholic Charities last year, due to its belief that a foster or adoptive child deserves a mother and father.

Kroger fired 2 workers among 10 who disapproved of wearing a logo resembling a "Pride" endorsement.

One can uncover many a "Pride" decorated, public class room at Libs of TikTok twitter, et.al., on a given day.

There is no such thing as cultural "indifference". A battle has been waged by historical man, on either side of any impactful cultural issue relevant to its time, anywhere there has been a democratic society.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

lmao!!! you have no clue what I believe or dont believe. But Ill give you a clue..... I dont believe in YOU! So what you have to say means very little to me. If we agree on a topic, ok....If we disagree on a topic, thats OK with me as well. Thats where you and I draw the line..... I won't force feed anyone "you have to believe my way or else" as you do regularly here. You are NO different than the LIBS you claim to protest. You just attempt to mask yours through the "word" of Christ of which you believe gives you some moral or high ground. It really doesn't Box! I am sure the lord approves of you attempted to degrade everyone with your insulting comments....

What did I say that so offended you that the ways of the world and ways of Christ's kingdom are at polar opposites? Or were you offended because I said the world places a high value in personal feelings whereas a disciple of Christ's focus on life is keeping a clean conscience by serving the Lord to the best of his ability?

There are two [spiritual] kingdoms in this world, Mr. NTG: Christ's kingdom which is the kingdom of Light and the devil's kingdom which is the kingdom of darkness. All of us are in one or the other.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

You mean people have attempted to drag you into their bedrooms in order to gain your approval and applause for their perverted sexual behavior?

I see you don't appreciate metaphorical speech. What a shame. You would broaden your horizons considerably if you worked on developing an appreciation for the beautiful, creative and expressive art forms of speech.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

They don't want your approval. They would settle for your indifference.

No, no. That's not how it works. You don't understand that there is a genuine spiritual bond not only between believers but between unbelievers as well -- between the seed of the woman and the seed of the devil, respectively (Gen 3:15).

Rom 1:32
32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
NIV

Also, instead of settling for indifference, they would be much better served "settling" for a little personal dignity and class by keeping their sex life out of the public square.