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Old 02-16-2016, 01:30 PM   #1
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Pittsburg Phil

I have a reprinted copy of "Racing Maxims of Pittsburg Phil"...very good condition, paper-bound with plastic-wire coil binding.

Free & postage paid to first person sending me a PM with promise to make $25 donation to Old Friends Thoroughbred Retirement Farm.
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:08 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:25 PM   #3
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The book is taken, but I'd like to encourage others to join delayjf & myself in making a $25 donation to Old Friends Farm. Even a cold-blooded gambler like Pittsburg Phil would have joined in on this cause; trust me, this one's a sure thing.:

http://www.oldfriendsequine.org/how-to-help.html

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Old 02-16-2016, 07:33 PM   #4
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Best handicapping book ever written, in my opinion. Over 100 years old and 90% is still good advice today.
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:19 AM   #5
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great book. I have a beat up version of what I think is an original print..not sure though. Size-wise, the paper is smaller than a normal book...maybe 3.5 x 5 ?
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Per our agreement - best thing I will do all day. Thank you for the motivation. I encourage all to join me - the karma feels great.

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Per our agreement - best thing I will do all day. Thank you for the motivation. I encourage all to join me - the karma feels great.
good on you, mate!
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:16 PM   #8
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Phil's is the only racing book I have ever read from cover to cover, and I did that several times before I ever bet a dime on horses!
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Old 02-19-2016, 01:42 PM   #9
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I have a reprinted copy of "Racing Maxims of Pittsburg Phil"...very good condition, paper-bound with plastic-wire coil binding.

Free & postage paid to first person sending me a PM with promise to make $25 donation to Old Friends Thoroughbred Retirement Farm.
Just a thought...

This book is now in the public domain. You could write a new forward to the book and still use Pittsburgh Phil's original text and then sell it and give the proceeds to OTRF.

I'm sure a lot of handicappers would buy the book knowing that the money will go to a good cause.
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What do you mean by "in the public domain"? It became "in the public domain" as soon as it was published and distributed, right? In other words, you're saying that copyright law does not apply in the case of this book? In other words, you're saying that no permission from anyone is needed to copy the original work, verbatim, along with a forward? I'm no copyright lawyer, but somehow I don't see that as being legal.
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Here's most of the book:

http://colinsghost.org/2010/05/racin...phil-1908.html

And some info on how it might be in the public domain:

http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
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What do you mean by "in the public domain"? It became "in the public domain" as soon as it was published and distributed, right?
That is one definition of public domain. The definition I am using is that the original text is no longer afforded copyright protection.

You can't just take a recently published version that has original material added to it -- like a forward. But you can take the original text and add some original material to it and then publish it without having to worry about being in violation of the copyright. Then you can sell the book and keep the proceeds.

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In other words, you're saying that copyright law does not apply in the case of this book? In other words, you're saying that no permission from anyone is needed to copy the original work, verbatim, along with a forward? I'm no copyright lawyer, but somehow I don't see that as being legal.
You can copy the original book and sell it. If there is newer, original copyrighted material in the book, you cannot copy that new, original copyrightable material without permission.
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