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Old 08-19-2015, 10:28 AM   #1
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Jonathon Kinchen

Is a unreal tournament player..Won the Hawthorne Contest this past weekend hitting the pick 5 at Arlington.
Jonathon has had quite a run this past year hitting the pick 6 on derby day totaling winnings over $150,000 for the day.

Maybe the best tournament player on tour..may have over 5 wins this year not sure..

Great follow on twitter.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:50 AM   #2
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What software does he use?
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:55 AM   #3
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What software does he use?
Not sure,huge fan of replays heard hes up at 3:00 am watching.

From what I gather he uses Formulator but also a big time timeformUS user.

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Old 08-19-2015, 11:22 AM   #4
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Not sure,huge fan of replays heard hes up at 3:00 am watching.

From what I gather he uses Formulator but also a big time timeformUS user.
If you've got the time, do the work and watch replays....It IS the difference maker.
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:30 AM   #5
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whats his twitter handle??

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Old 08-19-2015, 11:32 AM   #6
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whats his twitter handle??

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Old 08-19-2015, 11:39 AM   #7
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Uses trackus,

Heard in a interview he takes certain distances,at certain tracks,and ft traveled and inputs in excel I guess this indicates to him the average..

If the average 6f race at Del mar is run at example 4,265 ft,and a certain race is less traveled then he will upgrade the race..Interesting..
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:44 AM   #8
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Here is the Ticketmaker play @Utbighair used to win the Hawthorne contest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMnm6DPWUAASVk9.jpg
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:10 PM   #9
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It must be nice to hit for 20k off a totally lucky DQ. His ticketmaker shows he didnt have the winner of the Bev D.
even if you believe it was a legit DQ (i dont), no one would argue that the winner was extremely unlucky to lose the win. and the longer price "winner" was never even close to winning the race.

i'm sure Kinchen is good, but in this case, the difference between cashing for 20k or cashing for 0, was all luck.
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:12 PM   #10
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Not sure,huge fan of replays heard hes up at 3:00 am watching.

From what I gather he uses Formulator but also a big time timeformUS user.
I was up until 2:45 this morning. I wonder if that 15 minutes is the difference between he and I. What time does he get started?
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:17 PM   #11
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It must be nice to hit for 20k off a totally lucky DQ. His ticketmaker shows he didnt have the winner of the Bev D.
even if you believe it was a legit DQ (i dont), no one would argue that the winner was extremely unlucky to lose the win. and the longer price "winner" was never even close to winning the race.

i'm sure Kinchen is good, but in this case, the difference between cashing for 20k or cashing for 0, was all luck.
True, but at least Kinchen puts himself in position, on a consistent basis, to benefit fully from the element of luck when it arises......
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Old 08-19-2015, 02:21 PM   #12
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thanks cj

i couldn't find that one

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It must be nice to hit for 20k off a totally lucky DQ. His ticketmaker shows he didnt have the winner of the Bev D.
even if you believe it was a legit DQ (i dont), no one would argue that the winner was extremely unlucky to lose the win. and the longer price "winner" was never even close to winning the race.

i'm sure Kinchen is good, but in this case, the difference between cashing for 20k or cashing for 0, was all luck.
when you spent $588 on a p5 play you don't have to be much of a handicapper at all.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:19 PM   #14
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Jonathon is a very good friend of mine. He is one of the best handicappers I've ever seen. Very sharp, dedicated and most importantly, never afraid to back up his opinion at the windows.

In roughly 14 months playing tournaments, he has effectively qualified for the NHC 9 times. He's in front on the NHC Tour this year because of what he's done online (multiple outright wins in qualifiers) and the score last week at Hawthorne. He also put both of his NHC entries into the top 10 at this year's event. That doesn't happen by accident.

Someone in the thread called him lucky. Was it "lucky" that Secret Gesture was DQ'd. I guess you could categorize it as such, but luck is where preparation meets opportunity.

Lucky or well capitalized, he's really, really good.
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:18 AM   #15
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Someone in the thread called him lucky. Was it "lucky" that Secret Gesture was DQ'd. I guess you could categorize it as such, but luck is where preparation meets opportunity.
no doubt he is good. i said that in my post.
but when you put $500 into a p5, use A-C's, miss a 6/1 clear winner, and still cash a 20k p5, thanks to a DQ where the 3rd place finisher (not fouled, and the longest odds of the top 3 finishers) becomes the winner, I dont know how you can call that anything but lucky.
there is nothing to be ashamed about in getting lucky, but dont tell me about preparation or ticket maker.

I've been betting horses seriously since 1999 and i'm still waiting for my big score thanks to a DQ.
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