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Old 08-26-2020, 10:02 PM   #706
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Joe was a top notch collegiate debater, top in his class, won awards.
When I was in college I could run a 4.6 40yd dash, hit a 90mph fastball (and throw 88mph on the JUGS), could swim the 100m freestyle with all but 3 or 4 guys on the UT swim team.

Forty five years later I can't do any of the above. Neither can Joe Biden do what he did 50 yrs ago .

Btw, my physical skills haven't decayed at the rate Joe's cognitive skills have. Just sayin
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Old 08-26-2020, 10:40 PM   #707
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[QUOTE=ElKabong;2646423

Btw, my physical skills haven't decayed at the rate Joe's cognitive skills have. Just sayin[/QUOTE]



Joe's cognitive skills propelled him to 75th in his law school class of 85 when he was sharp. Just think how bright he must be now that he has lost it .
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Listen to this guy running for President in the 1960's . Nothing has changed in this country , unpopular wars,violence in the streets, and election fixing ,etc.....and two buffoons running for the office.



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Old 08-27-2020, 01:44 PM   #709
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But I voted for Pat Paulsen instead.
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wisconsin update

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600 Democratic Nominee wins Wisconsin -135
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101 Joe Biden wins Presidential Election -115
102 Donald Trump wins Presidential Election -105`

now you have to lay money to bet Trump. after tonight you will be laying more money.
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2020 US Presidential Election - Electoral Votes Winner - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 AM
539 Republican Nominee wins Maine +325
540 Democratic Nominee wins Maine -475
2020 US Presidential Election - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
101 Joe Biden wins Presidential Election -110
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119 Green wins Presidential Election +42500
120 Field wins Presidential Election -85000
121 Republican/Democrat wins Election -45000
122 Libertarian/Green wins Election +15000
123 Kanye West wins Presidential Election +20000
124 Field wins Presidential Election -999999
2020 US Presidential Election - Popular Vote Propositions - Third Place - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
151 Jo Jorgensen finishes in third place -720
152 Any other candidate in third place +440
153 Howie Hawkins finishes in third place +800
154 Any other candidate in third place -1700
155 Kanye West finishes in third place +850
156 Any other candidate in third place -1750
157 Donald Trump finishes in third place +50000
158 Any other candidate in third place -250000
159 Joe Biden finishes in third place +75000
160 Any other candidate in third place -375000
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162 Any other candidate in fourth place +280
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167 Donald Trump finishes in fourth place +125000
168 Any other candidate in fourth place -625000
169 Joe Biden finishes in fourth place +175000
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2020 US Presidential Election - Electoral College Winning Margin - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
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244 Any other result +100
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252 Any other result -2600
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270 Any other result -1050
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272 Any other result -825
273 Biden wins popular vote by 6.00% - 7.49% +525
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275 Biden wins popular vote by 4.5% - 5.99% +935
276 Any other result -1905
277 Biden wins popular vote by 3% - 4.49% +800
278 Any other result -1700
279 Biden wins popular vote by 1.5% - 2.99% +950
280 Any other result -1950
281 Biden wins pop vote by less than 1.49% +1300
282 Any other result -3000
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351 House Seats won by DEMS less than 209 +650
352 Any other result -1350
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352 Any other result -9600
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354 Any other result -3000
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358 Any other result -4500
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360 Any other result -4500
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362 Any other result -1850
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364 Any other result -1050
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368 Any other result -750
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370 Any other result -245
United States Congress - Majority Control of Senate - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
401 Democratic Senators in 117th Congress -135
402 Republican Senators in 117th Congress -105
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403 DEM Representatives in 117th Congress -900
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405 DEMS win Election + Senate + Lower House +100
406 Any other balance of power on 01/21/21 -140
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411 DEM control House REP control Senate +110
412 Any other balance of power on 01/21/21 -150
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415 Republican control House & Senate +450
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418 Any other balance of power on 01/21/21 -13500
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501 Republican Nominee wins Alabama -2600
502 Democratic Nominee wins Alabama +1200
503 Republican Nominee wins Alaska -675
504 Democratic Nominee wins Alaska +425
505 Republican Nominee wins Arizona -130
506 Democratic Nominee wins Arizona -110
507 Republican Nominee wins Arkansas -900
508 Democratic Nominee wins Arkansas +500
509 Republican Nominee wins California +950
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517 Republican Nominee wins Dist of Columbia +3000
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523 Republican Nominee wins Hawaii +880
524 Democratic Nominee wins Hawaii -1800
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533 Republican Nominee wins Kansas -825
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537 Republican Nominee wins Louisiana -1500
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542 Democratic Nominee wins Maryland -2150
543 Republican Nominee wins Massachusetts +1500
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545 Republican Nominee wins Michigan +200
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547 Republican Nominee wins Minnesota +160
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562 Democratic Nominee wins New Jersey -1500
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565 Republican Nominee wins New York +700
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567 Republican Nominee wins North Carolina -125
568 Democratic Nominee wins North Carolina -115
569 Republican Nominee wins North Dakota -2000
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571 Republican Nominee wins Ohio -210
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573 Republican Nominee wins Oklahoma -1950
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575 Republican Nominee wins Oregon +700
576 Democratic Nominee wins Oregon -1500
577 Republican Nominee wins Pennsylvania +150
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579 Republican Nominee wins Rhode Island +950
580 Democratic Nominee wins Rhode Island -1950
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583 Republican Nominee wins South Dakota -1700
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585 Republican Nominee wins Tennessee -2000
586 Democratic Nominee wins Tennessee +1000
587 Republican Nominee wins Texas -475
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589 Republican Nominee wins Utah -1200
590 Democratic Nominee wins Utah +600
591 Republican Nominee wins Vermont +1000
592 Democratic Nominee wins Vermont -2000
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595 Republican Nominee wins Washington +850
596 Democratic Nominee wins Washington -1750
597 Republican Nominee wins West Virginia -1850
598 Democratic Nominee wins West Virginia +900
599 Republican Nominee wins Wisconsin +100
600 Democratic Nominee wins Wisconsin -140
601 Republican Nominee wins Wyoming -2300
602 Democratic Nominee wins Wyoming +1100
2020 US Presidential Election - Popular Vote - Smallest Margin Of Victory Percentage - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
801 Texas has smallest MOV % +550
802 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1050
803 North Carolina has smallest MOV % +500
804 Any other state has smallest MOV % -900
805 Ohio has smallest MOV % +650
806 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1350
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808 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1750
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810 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1200
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812 Any other state has smallest MOV % -2000
813 Wisconsin has smallest MOV % +950
814 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1950
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816 Any other state has smallest MOV % -2000
817 Pennsylvania has smallest MOV % +1050
818 Any other state has smallest MOV % -2150
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820 Any other state has smallest MOV % -2750
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822 Any other state has smallest MOV % -2450
823 Minnesota has smallest MOV % +650
824 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1350
825 Maine has smallest MOV % +850
826 Any other state has smallest MOV % -1750
827 Nevada has smallest MOV % +2200
828 Any other state has smallest MOV % -6600
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830 Any other state has smallest MOV % -8200
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832 Any other state has smallest MOV % -13500
833 Colorado has smallest MOV % +2640
834 Any other state has smallest MOV % -8500
835 Virginia has smallest MOV % +2640
836 Any other state has smallest MOV % -8500
2020 US Presidential Election - Popular Vote - Third Parties Votes Received - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
851 Vote % for 3rd parties less than 0.50 +2500
852 Any other result -7500
853 Vote % for 3rd parties from 0.50 to 0.99 +1100
854 Any other result -2300
855 Vote % for 3rd parties from 1.00 to 1.49 +400
856 Any other result -600
857 Vote % for 3rd parties from 1.50 to 1.99 +400
858 Any other result -600
859 Vote % for 3rd parties from 2.00 to 2.49 +550
860 Any other result -1050
861 Vote % for 3rd parties from 2.50 to 2.99 +600
862 Any other result -1200
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864 Any other result -2000
865 Vote % for 3rd parties from 3.50 to 3.99 +800
866 Any other result -1700
867 Vote % for 3rd parties from 4.00 to 4.49 +1000
868 Any other result -2000
869 Vote % for 3rd parties from 4.50 to 4.99 +1050
870 Any other result -2150
871 Vote % for 3rd parties from 5.00 to 5.49 +1600
872 Any other result -4800
873 Vote % for 3rd parties from 5.50 to 5.99 +1600
874 Any other result -4800
875 Vote % for 3rd parties 6.00% or more +1000
876 Any other result -2000
2020 US Presidential Election - Propositions - Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:00 PM
901 Trump wins every state he won in 2016 +450
902 Trump loses a state he won in 2016 -750
903 Trump loses every state he lost in 2016 -170
904 Trump wins a state he lost in 2016 +130
905 Winner of pop vote wins elect college -245
906 Winner of pop vote loses elect college +175
2024 US Presidential Election - NEXT Election - Tuesday, November 5, 2024 8:00 PM
1001 Republican wins Presidential Elect 2024 -120
1002 Democrat wins Presidential Election 2024 -120
2020 & 2024 US Presidential Election - Winner - Tuesday, November 5, 2024 8:00 PM
1003 Joe Biden wins Pres Elect 2020 & 2024 +250
1004 Field wins either Presidential Election -350
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the republican's clearly won the won the convention battle.

we now have a pickemup election and its on to the debates. if you think Trump will win those debates, the time is now to get down on this election.
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the republican's clearly won the won the convention battle.

we now have a pickemup election and its on to the debates. if you think Trump will win those debates, the time is now to get down on this election.
I made two more bets on Trump earlier this week, the first time I bet him when he was an underlay. But, yesterday, bookmaker took all of the election bets off the boards and they're not back on today. I would imagine that when they return, Trump will be the favorite.
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I made two more bets on Trump earlier this week, the first time I bet him when he was an underlay. But, yesterday, bookmaker took all of the election bets off the boards and they're not back on today. I would imagine that when they return, Trump will be the favorite.
this election is being bet like there is no tomorrow. the william hill, fanduel and draftkings don't have the election lines up. but i can honestly say with the interest in this one from both sides, there will be more action on the election than on the NBA playoffs.
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Trump at basically even money is a worthwhile bet, but wasn't he +130 or +140 not long ago?
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Trump at basically even money is a worthwhile bet, but wasn't he +130 or +140 not long ago?
the major polls have Biden as a prohibitive favorite. the betting lines that i am seeing this morning have it dead even or Trump slightly favored.

my guess would be that this election could swing many more times before they count the final vote. also, the way things are today, if the electoral college does not get resolved by January 20, 2021, the speaker of the house at the time could become the next president until the states vote on a winner. this has happened before with Jefferson's first term.
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My place has Dems to win -120 Reps to win -120

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lol, talk about trying to fleece the bettor
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in past elections, i was quoting thegreek.com. they merged iwith another outfit and i couldn't get the lines from them. the greek used to take $50,000 per number, but they were very careful. the place i am quoting now takes $10,000 per number.

Betfair books the most, but has different rules.
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