That damn jockey fell of that damn horse Sid!

[onefast99]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

California replays spills all the time.

The spill yesterday at the wire(which is tough to decipher at GP)had a lot riding on it, one Rainbow ticket worth 571,000. Many wanted to know did the jockey cross the finish line on the horse or not? That was what TVG was trying to find out and one of the analysts even asked for a replay but GP didn't have it. In this case the fact that no information was available made the fall seem very suspicious.

[Denny]

If you look at the replay, from the top of the stretch the jockey whipped the horse 4 or 5 times right-handed before the incident.

I don't think it was the whipping that made the horse react that way, since he already had been struck at least four times before veering.

If you look closely (I've watched about fifteen times) the horse takes a funny step slightly to the RIGHT, then veers sharply to the LEFT and the jockey falls.

What would make a horse do that?

I'd like to see the SLO-MO. I'd also like to see the HEAD-ON.

Are those available anywhere?

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Denny

DRF doesn't even mention the incident.

Paulick Report leaves it out of the Headline on the carryover.

Let's just ignore these things.

Is everybody on Stronach's payroll?

Is there a reason you need it acknowledged? This wasn't Stronach's fault, or anyone's fault. It happened, you know it happened, anyone betting knew it happened, anyone who lost the bet knew it happened, so what exactly is so infuriating about not telling you yet of what happened that you already know happened?

[thaskalos]

If I were the unlucky guy who held that lone pick-6 ticket on the in that race, I know for a fact that I would have liked to have seen a replay of the incident. It happened so fast and so unexpectedly that no-one could tell how the jockey got dislodged from his horse at that late stage of the race.

It's hard to imagine a worse stroke of misfortune for a horseplayer. Usually, when you get screwed out of a $500,000 payday...there is someone to BLAME.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

If I were the unlucky guy who held that lone pick-6 ticket on the in that race, I know for a fact that I would have liked to have seen a replay of the incident. It happened so fast and so unexpectedly that no-one could tell how the jockey got dislodged from his horse at that late stage of the race.

It's hard to imagine a worse stroke of misfortune for a horseplayer. Usually, when you get screwed out of a $500,000 payday...there is someone to BLAME.

Of course you'd want to see the replay. I didn't have a cent on it but was on the phone with someone who was watching and let out an exclamation when he fell. We both wanted to see the rerun and waited. We finally saw it, just as I'm sure he did. Maybe things didn't go perfect,,but if they made the decision out of respect which I imagine they did (I'm sure the stewards were looking at it immediately), then I can live with waiting a little while.

Maybe it was a whale, which makes my sympathy nil. Ha.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

Of course you'd want to see the replay. I didn't have a cent on it but was on the phone with someone who was watching and let out an exclamation when he fell. We both wanted to see the rerun and waited. We finally saw it, just as I'm sure he did. Maybe things didn't go perfect,,but if they made the decision out of respect which I imagine they did (I'm sure the stewards were looking at it immediately), then I can live with waiting a little while.

Maybe it was a whale, which makes my sympathy nil. Ha.

IMO...the race replay should have been shown by the track right after it was decided that the jockey was up and around. This wasn't a case where a horse goes down and takes the jockey with it; I can see the argument against showing the replay in those types of "tragedy" cases. This was a very unusual case where it really looked as if the jockey jumped off the horse right on the shadow of the wire...just as they used to orchestrate in those gangster movies of yesteryear. It's good to have a "protocol" in place...but you must also have a certain degree of "flexibility" when running a sport...in order to deal with the real "unusual" events that occur, once in a long while.

To switch off to some South American track as if nothing at Gulfstream was left undone was the wrong thing to do. The bettors who were involved in the wagering of that race deserved better...IMO.

[Denny]

Fager,

This incident was/is being ignored by DRF even though Welsch was there.
(The self proclaimed Turf Authority.)

I was watching, the anouncer didn't say a word about the Rainbow or the jockey.

Gulf doesn't show the replay.
They don't tell anybody anything.
They switch to South America.

Someone here at PA (cj) had to point it out.

You don't think there's anything wrong?
Are you also a Gulf apologist?

500k isn't chicken feed. Don't you think people should be made aware by the track involved?

They're a second-class track masquerading as first-class.

Unrelated, but, worth mentioning.
How does anyone know where the Finish Line is on a Turf race at Gulf?

Are we supposed to estimate based on a piece of red tape on the rail.

Where is the actual line they use to show a photo finish???

This track SUCKS.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Denny

Fager,

This incident was/is being ignored by DRF even though Welsch was there.
(The self proclaimed Turf Authority.)

I was watching, the anouncer didn't say a word about the Rainbow or the jockey.

Gulf doesn't show the replay.
They don't tell anybody anything.
They switch to South America.

Someone here at PA (cj) had to point it out.

You don't think there's anything wrong?
Are you also a Gulf apologist?

500k isn't chicken feed. Don't you think people should be made aware by the track involved?

They're a second-class track masquerading as first-class.

Unrelated, but, worth mentioning.
How does anyone know where the Finish Line is on a Turf race at Gulf?

Are we supposed to estimate based on a piece of red tape on the rail.

Where is the actual line they use to show a photo finish???

This track SUCKS.

Mike Welsch talked about it on Twitter.

Twitter

Twitter

[cj]

Also, appears jockey is ok.

Twitter

[JustRalph]

I want to know how the guy holding the ticket is doing

[Denny]

cj,
Thanks for the updates. I don't tweet. I see DRF now has a story by MW at the website, nearly 24 hours later. Better late than never.

Do you know if a head-on replay is anywhere to be found.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I want to know how the guy holding the ticket is doing

Who has the balls to walk up and ask him?

[cj]

Originally Posted by Denny

cj,
Thanks for the updates. I don't tweet. I see DRF now has a story by MW at the website, nearly 24 hours later. Better late than never.

Do you know if a head-on replay is anywhere to be found.

No problem. That tweet was from yesterday around 5pm CT so he at least started the story then. I imagine he added to it later as time permitted.

I haven't seen a head on. I haven't really looked, but I know others have and have come up empty.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Who has the balls to walk up and ask him?

Here's the guy did!

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Who has the balls to walk up and ask him?

Good point.....