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Old 01-08-2019, 07:37 PM   #16
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Wall gofundme at $19,624,036.00 in 22 days I hope it jumps to
$22,000,000.00 tonite.
AMAZING really for donations, mostly Americans.
Not Mexicans or their government? Odd.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:42 PM   #17
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liberals are scared to death about this "federal emergency" because they know it can happen. they are trying to down play it the best they can but they honestly know damn well it's a real possibility. Then he can use a nice chunk of DOD money
I'm sure they are terrified. They will just hate to get their turn at declaring federal emergencies over climate change, police misconduct, income inequality, etc. in a couple of years.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:22 PM   #18
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Pfft...that's just a random criminal action that happens 1,000 times a day Ralph.
According to the FBI, which publishes the data in the Uniform Crime Reports, from 1980–2014, an average of 64 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed each year.

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Just because the perp HAPPENS to be an illegal immigrant should not matter at ALL good sir.


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It matters. The question is whether it should matter enough to spend 25B on a wall.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:25 PM   #19
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No needle was moved here...

It was the soft-sell approach but he just can't soft-sell.

Senate R's are going to demand he cave... likely tomorrow... if not sooner than later.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:25 PM   #20
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I call out Trump as being a lying sack of shit.
Conservatives will cry the same about Pelosi and Schumer.

It will be interesting to monitor public opinion after this.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:26 PM   #21
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liberals are scared to death about this "federal emergency" because they know it can happen. they are trying to down play it the best they can but they honestly know damn well it's a real possibility. Then he can use a nice chunk of DOD money
Las Vegas Shooter:
Not an immigrant
Sandy Hook Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Parkland Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Charleston Church Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Aurora Movie Theater Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Gabby Giffords Shooter:
Not an immigrant.

How would "the wall" have stopped these crimes?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:27 PM   #22
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Would the $25B wall effectively put an end to this country's illegal Mexican immigration, and drug trafficking problems?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:27 PM   #23
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I call out Trump as being a lying sack of shit.
Conservatives will cry the same about Pelosi and Schumer.

It will be interesting to monitor public opinion after this.
This isn't going to move anyone either way... Democrats have said repeatedly they support border security... they said again he has to surrender to have any hope in winning.

Popular opinion was behind the Democrats not the WH/Republicans.

Trump also dropped basically all of his "wall" talk... the wall is dead now... until he revives it tomorrow.

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This isn't going to move anyone either way... Democrats have said repeatedly they support border security... they said again he has to surrender to have any hope in winning.

Popular opinion was behind the Democrats not the WH/Republicans.

Trump also dropped basically all of his "wall" talk... the wall is dead now... until he revives it tomorrow.
what makes your opinion Popular?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:47 PM   #25
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what makes your opinion Popular?
Clocker and a few others have cited multiple polls showing the wall is currently an unpopular policy item.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:50 PM   #26
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what makes your opinion Popular?
Please, Dave, I'm begging ya.
Turn off the Faux News for a while and consider other sources of information.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/polit...all/index.html

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/s...152402734.html

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Old 01-08-2019, 10:32 PM   #27
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Las Vegas Shooter:
Not an immigrant
Sandy Hook Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Parkland Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Charleston Church Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Aurora Movie Theater Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Gabby Giffords Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
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Would be immigrant.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:47 PM   #28
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My take on the Fake National Crisis Address:

The Orange Man just jumped the shark tonight.
He's done.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:00 PM   #29
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Las Vegas Shooter:
Not an immigrant
Sandy Hook Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Parkland Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Charleston Church Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Aurora Movie Theater Shooter:
Not an immigrant.
Gabby Giffords Shooter:
Not an immigrant.

How would "the wall" have stopped these crimes?
was there a point in there somewhere?
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:00 PM   #30
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My take on the Fake National Crisis Address:

The Orange Man just jumped the shark tonight.
He's done.

He's done? What does that even mean? Done how?

Even further, why do you care? You don't even live here.
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