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10-27-2018, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I asked you what "entity" ordered the hits on JFK, MLK and RFK?...I could care less about the fall guys, give me the ENTITY.....C'mon sport, you can do it.
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Who is serving time for the RFK murder, sport?
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10-27-2018, 12:31 AM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Who is serving time for the RFK murder, sport?
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Who ordered the HITS?....I could care less about anything else.
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10-27-2018, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
You folks live in this bubble world of equivalency...
Trump recently praised a politician who committed assault... not words... actual assault on someone.
Eric Holder was talking about a remark Michelle Obama made and while improper didn't actually congratulate someone on committing violence.
Trump is President.
Eric Holder is not.
Trump received no device.
Eric Holder had an explosive sent to him.
Yet in light of all of that. You try and claim this stuff is equivalent. It's simply not the case.
Trump can go a long way simply by saying he has to take some blame and just tone it down... he is incapable of that.
Trumps words helped inspire a man to send bombs all over the country. No, Trump is did not send them nor is he responsible for the actions... but HIS WORDS carry great influence and he seems unwilling or unable to accept that responsibility. |
No, Trump's "words" did not inspire anyone; it's the words of just about all of the people who were the recipients of the 'bombs' that, I believe, set off the messenger. I can imagine many people (including myself) feeling the same rage, but most people are in control of themselves...this guy snapped. THEY caused him to snap. Their words!
Can YOU produce that list of advocated violence against ("at this scale") the minority party, as Fuss claims...from anyone in the Republican party?
PS: I still have my doubts about this bomber not being a setup.
Last edited by MargieRose; 10-27-2018 at 12:43 AM.
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10-27-2018, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Who ordered the HITS?....I could care less about anything else.
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You should care, sport. In this country you're innocent until proven guilty.
MLK was not a politician, his assassination does not qualify for the topic ely and I engaged in.
RFK was killed by a nut job that was from a foreign country. SoCalFan has given comment on him. Not a conservative.
JFK was killed in 1963 (fifty plus yrs ago). If you really want to go there with conspiracy theory BS, go for it and look the fool. I know people (well) that he knew in Fort Worth. Lee Oswald would not have been a part of a conspiracy because he was a loner to the extreme. Not a team player. Only a complete idiot would think he would "go along" with anything.
He shot JD Tippett in cold blood in the street. Tried to kill other cops in the Texas Theater shortly thereafter. He was a nut job for sure, but mentally ill, had no attention span to speak of. People that actually knew the guy knew he did it alone. Extremely weird guy, unpredictable.
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10-27-2018, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
No, Trump's "words" did not inspire anyone; it's the words of just about all of the people who were the recipients of the 'bombs' that, I believe, set off the messenger. I can imagine many people (including myself) feeling the same rage, but most people are in control of themselves...this guy snapped. THEY caused him to snap. Their words!
Can YOU produce that list of advocated violence against ("at this scale") the minority party, as Fuss claims...from anyone in the Republican party?
PS: I still have my doubts about this bomber not being a setup.
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I have doubts also, but only because of the Richard Jewel situation. He was an easy target to accuse, as is this guy.
If the Dna evidence is there and verifiable, I hope the guy never sees the light of day.
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10-27-2018, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
PS: I still have my doubts about this bomber not being a setup.
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Then we're done.
Trump said he is a perpetrator.
Trump's DOJ says he's a perpetrator.
And you want to have a real discussion while you sit on this hedge?
I'll pass.
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10-27-2018, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
That's the point, Cletus. If you're going to compare a body slam to an attempted murder, you're digging that hole you're in much deeper.
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What in the actual **** are you talking about?
I keep saying equivalence and you're the one comparing a "bodyslam" comment to a attempted mass murder.
Thanks for making my point... as starkly and obviously as possible.
What I am talking about right now is rhetoric... you don't want to talk about it because you're smart enough to know its indefensible. So you want to play games on nutjobs shooting people...
Tommy Burks was murdered by his Republican opponent.
Gabby Giffords was shot by a whack job assailant... was he left/right/crazy...? We don't know. Unfortunately Trump wasn't around to remove the doubt at the time.
It's really easy for me to say the baseball shooting was bad. Its equally easy for me to say this was bad but...
I'll toss up Bernie's rhetoric on violence (you know the guy that actually condemned his supporters for this stuff) vs. Trump's "bodyslam" any ****ing day of the week.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-27-2018 at 01:11 AM.
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10-27-2018, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What in the actual **** are you talking about?
What I am talking about right now is rhetoric... [/B]
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Rhetoric.... Watch the shit going on at CNN and msnbc sometime, said by democrat politicians. You've seen the YouTube pieces posted by others, look them up. You think that's any more civil than what trump has said?
Get ****ing real (had to include a f bomb. You seem to think that's cool)
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10-27-2018, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Then we're done.
Trump said he is a perpetrator.
Trump's DOJ says he's a perpetrator.
And you want to have a real discussion while you sit on this hedge?
I'll pass.
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That's my gut opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
As to the question in my post...second dodge. 
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10-27-2018, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Rhetoric.... Watch the shit going on at CNN and msnbc sometime, said by democrat politicians. You've seen the YouTube pieces posted by others, look them up. You think that's any more civil than what trump has said?
Get ****ing real (had to include a f bomb. You seem to think that's cool)
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Let's see all of the people who've pled guilty to assault the Democrats are defending?
Want to play that game... name one.
How about pay legal fees if they assault someone?
Name another.
Or do you want to cruise back over to the more comfortable ground of comparing comments to attempted murder?
You want to play the #bothsides nonsense without actually calling out your side.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-27-2018 at 01:31 AM.
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10-27-2018, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
That's my gut opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
As to the question in my post...second dodge. |
Hcap posted a video to look it up.
How many legal fees have Democrats offered to pay for their supporters if they assault someone?
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10-27-2018, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What in the actual **** are you talking about?
I keep saying equivalence and you're the one comparing a "bodyslam" comment to a attempted mass murder.
Thanks for making my point... as starkly and obviously as possible.
What I am talking about right now is rhetoric... you don't want to talk about it because you're smart enough to know its indefensible. So you want to play games on nutjobs shooting people...
Tommy Burks was murdered by his Republican opponent.
Gabby Giffords was shot by a whack job assailant... was he left/right/crazy...? We don't know. Unfortunately Trump wasn't around to remove the doubt at the time.
It's really easy for me to say the baseball shooting was bad. Its equally easy for me to say this was bad but...
I'll toss up Bernie's rhetoric on violence (you know the guy that actually condemned his supporters for this stuff) vs. Trump's "bodyslam" any ****ing day of the week.
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OK. SO "whatabout" this rhetoric (of a word I'm so tired of hearing)?
And every single night on late nite TV. And there are hundreds more.
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10-27-2018, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
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Do you guys actually listen to the full things when you post these? Or do you just regurgitate from super far right locations?
Madonna:
“Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. But I know that this won't change anything. We cannot fall into despair. As the poet W.H. Auden once wrote on the eve of World War II, we must love one another or die. I choose love.”
Holder same speech:
"When I say we, you know, ‘We kick ‘em,’ I don’t mean we do anything inappropriate. We don’t do anything illegal, but we got to be tough, and we have to fight for the very things that civil rights leaders John Lewis, Martin Luther King, Whitney Young – you know, all those folks gave to us.”
I can do others as well... but I think you'll get the point.
Just kidding I know you won't. 
PS) These people also aren't the President. Like come on dude... Eminem is your foil to the President?
PPS) J Cole does have a pretty solid takedown of Trump supporters on Come Through and Chill.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-27-2018 at 01:51 AM.
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10-27-2018, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Do you guys actually listen to the full things when you post these? Or do you just regurgitate from super far right locations?
Madonna:
“Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. But I know that this won't change anything. We cannot fall into despair. As the poet W.H. Auden once wrote on the eve of World War II, we must love one another or die. I choose love.”
Holder same speech:
"When I say we, you know, ‘We kick ‘em,’ I don’t mean we do anything inappropriate. We don’t do anything illegal, but we got to be tough, and we have to fight for the very things that civil rights leaders John Lewis, Martin Luther King, Whitney Young – you know, all those folks gave to us.”
I can do others as well... but I think you'll get the point.
Just kidding I know you won't.
PS) These people also aren't the President. |
Yeah, I know. All these people are below the POTUS. And they should know better. But they don't. And you give them a pass.
Late night talk shows can belittle him all night every night.
His bloody head can be put forth on camera as a joke.
Rappers can shoot him in the head in pretend world in music videos.
Plays on a large magnitude can assimilate his assassination.
But that is all fine I'm sure. Because he deserves it, right?
You all whined like little bitches when Obama was even remotely challenged, much less ripped apart on a daily and nightly basis on every MSM channel, and hundreds of papers every day.
And Trump is the fascist? 
Last edited by Lemon Drop Husker; 10-27-2018 at 01:58 AM.
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10-27-2018, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Yeah, I know. All these people are below the POTUS. And they should know better. But they don't. And you give them a pass.
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Full stop.
I just took the first two and posted what they actually said... surprise... crickets.
Sorry I've been the one saying equivalence and now you want to put Gifford (Fired BTW), Snoop, Eminem, and De Niro on the same level as the President of the United States? 
As far as Fascism... You and basically everybody on here has demonstrated you have no clue what the term actually means despite things like google (I've used) and wikipedia (I've used) being immediately available to define it.
If you want a Political Theory lesson shoot a PM. Ya might learn something but then again openmindedness is frowned upon in this GOP.
Here is a tidbit: Leftists cannot be Fascist... they can be all sorts of bad things we call the left... but they can't be Fascist.
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