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Old 11-30-2004, 07:13 AM   #1
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What the Pentagon Thinks About The War

Evildoers and other comic book creations are now in question by the Pentagon. Wonder what the pres thinks.
Remember his "duh, they hate our freedoms"?

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'They hate our policies, not our freedom'
Quietly released Pentagon report contains major criticisms of administration.
by Tom Regan | csmonitor.com

Late on the Wednesday afternoon before the Thanksgiving holiday, the US Defense Department released a report by the Defense Science Board that is highly critical of the administration's efforts in the war on terror and in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

'Muslims do not hate our freedom, but rather they hate our policies [the report says]. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states. Thus, when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy.'
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Old 11-30-2004, 04:10 PM   #2
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Hcap,

Good post. Have you heard anything about the supressed CIA report that was supposed to be released before the election on 911 accountability? It was supposed to be released after the election, but the conservative media seems to have just dropped even asking about it.
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:15 PM   #3
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The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided suppor

Those Muslims are prejudiced against non- muslim and non-middle easterners. Not surprising since a lot of Israelis are neither.
They are also unwilling to share the Old Testament lands with any others who believe on the old testament, but many Muslims will go to other areas and use violence to try to change tyhe entire political, social, rellgious, and economic systems to the way they want it.
I believe they did that in Spain centuries ago. Latest place is Sweden.
Many Muslims are unwilling to live and let live; Just like their founder.
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:42 PM   #4
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You guys are like a worn out record with a skip in it.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:42 AM   #5
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Secretariat wrote:

Hcap,

Good post. Have you heard anything about the supressed CIA report that was supposed to be released before the election on 911 accountability? It was supposed to be released after the election, but the conservative media seems to have just dropped even asking about it.


And the liberal media didn't also drop the ball on this "suppressed CIA report"?

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Old 12-01-2004, 07:52 AM   #6
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Box, this story has legs. Bush has just been re-invented as the war prez. Maybe it's a bit premature for this much dirt?

Sec, this is the last major article I know of. Of course there is always the blogs.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...=la-util-op-ed

The 9/11 Secret in the CIA's Back Pocket
The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.
Robert Scheer

October 19, 2004

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

The official stressed that the report was more blunt and more specific than the earlier bipartisan reports produced by the Bush-appointed Sept. 11 commission and Congress.

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This report does that," said the intelligence official. "The report found very senior-level officials responsible."

By law, the only legitimate reason the CIA director has for holding back such a report is national security. Yet neither Goss nor McLaughlin has invoked national security as an explanation for not delivering the report to Congress.

"It surely does not involve issues of national security," said the intelligence official.

"The agency directorate is basically sitting on the report until after the election," the official continued. "No previous director of CIA has ever tried to stop the inspector general from releasing a report to the Congress, in this case a report requested by Congress."

None of this should surprise us given the Bush administration's great determination since 9/11 to resist any serious investigation into how the security of this nation was so easily breached. In Bush's much ballyhooed war on terror, ignorance has been bliss.

The president fought against the creation of the Sept. 11 commission, for example, agreeing only after enormous political pressure was applied by a grass-roots movement led by the families of those slain.

And then Bush refused to testify to the commission under oath, or on the record. Instead he deigned only to chat with the commission members, with Vice President Dick Cheney present, in a White House meeting in which commission members were not allowed to take notes. All in all, strange behavior for a man who seeks reelection to the top office in the land based on his handling of the so-called war on terror.

In September, the New York Times reported that several family members met with Goss privately to demand the release of the CIA inspector general's report. "Three thousand people were killed on 9/11, and no one has been held accountable," 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser told the paper.

The failure to furnish the report to Congress, said Harman, "fuels the perception that no one is being held accountable. It is unacceptable that we don't have [the report]; it not only disrespects Congress but it disrespects the American people."

The stonewalling by the Bush administration and the failure of Congress to gain release of the report have, said the intelligence source, "led the management of the CIA to believe it can engage in a cover-up with impunity. Unless the public demands an accounting, the administration and CIA's leadership will have won and the nation will have lost."
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Another New Pessimistic Iraq Assessment

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6665231/

And today, CNN reporters quoted Iraq "chief optimist" Rumsfeld opining that we "may" be able to withdraw troops from Iraq by the end of Bush's new administration.

Less optimistically, Iraqi interim government officials and other intelligence sources have estimated that up to a decade of American occupation may be required to stabilize Iraq politically after the January elections.

If we still have 100,000+ troops mired in Iraqi violence in 2008, an impeached Bush should already be back in Crawford.
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