Any offshore online betting that offers quinella betting?

[Gasser57]

Bovada says it hopes to offer quinella betting "soon", but I'm unable to find an online betting service that currently does. Since I live in Texas, I need one that's based offshore.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows of one.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by Gasser57

Bovada says it hopes to offer quinella betting "soon", but I'm unable to find an online betting service that currently does. Since I live in Texas, I need one that's based offshore.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows of one.

House Quinellas in the days where they booked bets were really attractive (multiply 1/2 the win price x place price of second place finisher. But not sure they would be as attractive these days with the bet downs/odds changes that happen when the gates open.

Having quinellas at Del Mar for example is foolish because the pools are much smaller than the exacta pools.

[Gasser57]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

House Quinellas in the days where they booked bets were really attractive (multiply 1/2 the win price x place price of second place finisher. But not sure they would be as attractive these days with the bet downs/odds changes that happen when the gates open.

Having quinellas at Del Mar for example is foolish because the pools are much smaller than the exacta pools.

Andy - valid points for sure. I just would like to have the option of playing them as an incremental bankroll builder.

[HalvOnHorseracing]

Originally Posted by Gasser57

Bovada says it hopes to offer quinella betting "soon", but I'm unable to find an online betting service that currently does. Since I live in Texas, I need one that's based offshore.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows of one.

I don't quite understand the interest in the quinella.

Every track with a $1 minimum exacta bet track has quinellas, except they are called exacta boxes.

Here's what I mean. A $2 quinella and a $1 exacta box are more often than not around the same payoff if the lower odds horse wins. On the other hand, if the higher odds horse wins you usually get a bit more of a bonus. In the long run it is a better bet than the quinella. Plus the elimination of one of the quinella pool cuts back on cannibalization.

The only thing you can't do with this is bet a $1 quinella.

[Gasser57]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

I don't quite understand the interest in the quinella.

Every track with a $1 minimum exacta bet track has quinellas, except they are called exacta boxes.

Here's what I mean. A $2 quinella and a $1 exacta box are more often than not around the same payoff if the lower odds horse wins. On the other hand, if the higher odds horse wins you usually get a bit more of a bonus. In the long run it is a better bet than the quinella. Plus the elimination of one of the quinella pool cuts back on cannibalization.

The only thing you can't do with this is bet a $1 quinella.

I should've clarified that I was talking about a $1 quinella, which Saratoga offers on some races. I'm pretty new to the sport, but it looks like the quinella is going the way of the car CD player. I guess it'd just be nice to use in competitive races to put more horses in play when you just have a small bankroll.

The real problem is the massive computer bet downs at post time that Andy referred to quashing odds after most bets have been made. Last year at this time I rarely had $1 exactas that paid less than $10, and my typical payoff was in the $15-$40 range. Now I consider $10-20 quite a score.

[WP1981]

A little inside info perhaps.. since Bovada upgraded to their new software a few weeks ago you are able to bet as little as 1 cent on all wagers via mobile site. They hit a launch glitch so you are only able to bet wps, ex, tri and supers at this time for whatever reasons.

The desktop site will not let you enter a decimal point, I have been messing around with .10-.20 tris via mobile entire time. My exotic rebates plus the status loss rebates have basically covered all of my losses each day. It seems they grade the loss rebates on each individual loss so even when I am ahead on the day I get a rebate on every losing wager.

They did this update after the sports betting legalization here so I think they are gearing up to give perks like crazy from here on out.

Worth a shot, especially if you are a low roller. They cash out via btc, etc in about 4 hours. Get a bitpay account and pay the $10 for the debit card. I never hold any btc. I deposit via cc, cashout to btc and immediatly xfer to my bitpay visa or amazon gift card if needed. Fees are app very low.

[AltonKelsey]

Quinellas are ridiculous and should be eliminated . I don't know why Hong Kong prefers them and does not even offer exactas.

[AltonKelsey]

Bovada, no matter where you log in from the site says not available in your country,

[TucsonGreyhound]

5dimes offers Quinellas for any track that offers a Quinella, with $.25 minimum bets.

Also, the Hong Kong Quinellas pay for the top 3 finishers (so 3 different combos get paid out, odds are same regardless of WPS finish). If anything, that should be how Quinellas these days are structured. Especially for bigger fields like they have in HK, it can be simpler for the novice bettor to place and cash those types of exotics.

[sour grapes]

in the old days on tuesdays in ny if you wanted to bet finger lakes all you could bet were quinellas.ny otb made their own pool and in some cases their would be some really nice payouts on logical horses.now with whales those ineffecient pools are long gone.

[AltonKelsey]

Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound

5dimes offers Quinellas for any track that offers a Quinella, with $.25 minimum bets.

Also, the Hong Kong Quinellas pay for the top 3 finishers (so 3 different combos get paid out, odds are same regardless of WPS finish). If anything, that should be how Quinellas these days are structured. Especially for bigger fields like they have in HK, it can be simpler for the novice bettor to place and cash those types of exotics.

Thats a separate bet. They also have a normal Q, but , inexplicably NO EXACTA



Guess no one else thinks its strange.

[Nitro]

Originally Posted by AltonKelsey

Thats a separate bet. They also have a normal Q, but , inexplicably NO EXACTA

Guess no one else thinks its strange.

Originally Posted by AltonKelsey

Quinellas are ridiculous and should be eliminated . I don't know why Hong Kong prefers them and does not even offer exactas.

Apparently you haven't being following HK race results very closely!?
Why would want to invest twice the money for an EX box versus a standard QUIN box when fact the average QUIN pay out is equivalent to the average EX payout here in the States?

I don't find that strange at all. In fact, I find it very stimulating!

[AltonKelsey]

Originally Posted by Nitro

Apparently you haven't being following HK race results very closely!?
Why would want to invest twice the money for an EX box versus a standard QUIN box when fact the average QUIN pay out is equivalent to the average EX payout here in the States?

I don't find that strange at all. In fact, I find it very stimulating!

So ridiculous, I won't even indulge it.

[Nitro]

Originally Posted by AltonKelsey

So ridiculous, I won't even indulge it.

"So ridiculous"? Well it's your money pal. So do as you wish!

You won't indulge it, because you can't refute the facts.

Besides who are you to comment on the betting platforms that are working so well for the thousands of HK racing patrons. Apparently they overwhelmingly prefer the Quinella bet and I don't blame them.

[AltonKelsey]

I'll let someone else waste time explaining why the Q in lieu of an exacta is absurd.


I have an idea why they do it that way, but won't go into it