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Old 10-19-2021, 01:13 PM   #31
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Old 10-19-2021, 02:46 PM   #32
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there is a point with how this will impact mandates but he should never have been president. coward. completely choked in his job and lucky to get a pay check.
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Old 10-19-2021, 03:25 PM   #33
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Old 10-19-2021, 03:33 PM   #35
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https://theintercept.com/2018/02/06/...e-told-the-un/

https://apnews.com/article/colin-pow...8a4f667343b648

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...le-in-iraq-war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...d_the_Iraq_War

quote: On February 5, 2003, Powell appeared before the UN to prove the urgency to engage a war with Iraq. In 2016, Powell would say, "[A]t the time I gave the speech on Feb. 5, the president had already made this decision for military action." Powell was selected to deliver the speech based on his credibility, and Powell stated in 2016 that it had been written by the vice president's office:

The speech supposedly had been prepared in the White House in the NSC [National Security Council]. But when we were given what had been prepared, it was totally inadequate, and we couldn’t track anything in it. When I asked Condi Rice, the national security advisor, where did this come from, it turns out the vice president’s office had written it.
When you are being pushed around by the president, the vice president, and Condi Rice...then you should stop strutting around like you are the country's top military man...and hide in shame like the "pussy" that you really are.
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Old 10-19-2021, 04:06 PM   #36
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When you are being pushed around by the president, the vice president, and Condi Rice...then you should stop strutting around like you are the country's top military man...and hide in shame like the "pussy" that you really are.

Being a victim wasn't a great excuse for someone in his position.
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Old 10-19-2021, 04:40 PM   #37
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Being a victim wasn't a great excuse for someone in his position.
When they strut like peacocks with all the bars and medals pinned to their chest, they are "heroes". But when the shit hits the fan...the heroes turn into "victims".

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Old 10-19-2021, 07:19 PM   #39
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UNFORTUNATELY that is true. The good soldier just followed the orders of his superiors.
Colin Powell went to Vietnam, and you went to Canada.
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When you are being pushed around by the president, the vice president, and Condi Rice...then you should stop strutting around like you are the country's top military man...and hide in shame like the "pussy" that you really are.
During that time period all inelegance agency's said there were WMD's, when it was going on I suggested here that a shadow government were all green lighting go get him. People here in denial of a deep state or swamp. I thought at the time what was really going on was the removal of one leg on the middle east stool to destabilize bad actors to the extent that they could be managed. Also in the event that Israel had to take out Iran it would be smoother without Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti.
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During that time period all inelegance agency's said there were WMD's, when it was going on I suggested here that a shadow government were all green lighting go get him. People here in denial of a deep state or swamp. I thought at the time what was really going on was the removal of one leg on the middle east stool to destabilize bad actors to the extent that they could be managed. Also in the event that Israel had to take out Iran it would be smoother without Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti.
It has since been revealed that there was no widespread "Intelligence" backing up the WMD assertion. The "WMD" reports were a lie concocted by our government so they could carry out a prearranged attack on Iraq. This is a tough pill for us to swallow...because we like to think that our country would never be the aggressor in an unfair war. But we were...and we have also done this in the past. Let's not keep our heads buried in the sand here.
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It has since been revealed that there was no widespread "Intelligence" backing up the WMD assertion. The "WMD" reports were a lie concocted by our government so they could carry out a prearranged attack on Iraq. This is a tough pill for us to swallow...because we like to think that our country would never be the aggressor in an unfair war. But we were...and we have also done this in the past. Let's not keep our heads buried in the sand here.
The head in the sand is uniquely something that you and your ilk are famous for.
Colin Powell was a good man and a fine officer. And I am thankful for his service to our country.
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The head in the sand is uniquely something that you and your ilk are famous for.
Colin Powell was a good man and a fine officer. And I am thankful for his service to our country.
And I hope he has a fan where he is right now...because it's probably very hot.
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It has since been revealed that there was no widespread "Intelligence" backing up the WMD assertion. The "WMD" reports were a lie concocted by our government so they could carry out a prearranged attack on Iraq. This is a tough pill for us to swallow...because we like to think that our country would never be the aggressor in an unfair war. But we were...and we have also done this in the past. Let's not keep our heads buried in the sand here.
8 different countries were in on it. Look up operation “mass appeal”
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People here in denial of a deep state or swamp.
People define the "deep state" in ways that are not true and then say "see, it doesn't exist".

IMO, the deep state is primarily people within the intelligence community that have a political agenda and use their IC resources to circumvent a healthy democracy and advance their goals. That probably goes as far collecting dirt on politicians, journalists, media people, activists, CEOs etc.. and subtly or not so subtly threatening their careers (or worse) if they don't shut up and go along with the program. They are not good people even when/if we agree with them on some issues. To a large extent, this is why the media is so corrupt. They are not dong their job as the protector of democracy by exposing incompetence and corruption. They are a major part of the corruption doing the bidding of their masters which are politicians, corporate giants, and the IC.
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