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Old 09-12-2021, 04:54 AM   #46
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how do you know he was not talking about the BLM violent extremists? cnn has a biased view ...
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:30 AM   #47
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how do you know he was not talking about the BLM violent extremists? cnn has a biased view ...
First of all, on 9/11 the focus should be on foreign terrorists. Don't dilute the message by getting politically cute and discuss domestic terrorism as somehow analogous. The two are not the same. Secondly. If you do mention domestic terrorism, have the balls to name names and not hide behind a generic description. Bush always was a manipulated twit without balls so this is to be expected from him. He is part of the establishment problem
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:46 AM   #48
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Is GW still searching for those pesky WMD's? The man should be tried for war crimes.
Nope. The 8 different intelligence groups who confirmed they were there, should be tried or dismantled. Including our CIA and several look alike groups from other countries

He was just the guy who believed them and then he got stupid believing he could sell it to the people.

I thought for sure he was going to own a piece of
Iraq, build military bases etc. AND TAKE THE OIL.

Nope. This is where he lost me
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Old 09-12-2021, 01:21 PM   #49
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Nope. The 8 different intelligence groups who confirmed they were there, should be tried or dismantled. Including our CIA and several look alike groups from other countries

He was just the guy who believed them and then he got stupid believing he could sell it to the people.

I thought for sure he was going to own a piece of
Iraq, build military bases etc. AND TAKE THE OIL.

Nope. This is where he lost me

The CIA said the the WMD's were a made up story by the Bush administration.



In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a “massive stockpile” of biological weapons. But as CIA Director George Tenet noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policymakers it had “no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons agent or stockpiles at Baghdad’s disposal.” The “massive stockpile” was just literally made up.



In December 2002, Bush declared, “We do not know whether or not [Iraq] has a nuclear weapon.” That was not what the National Intelligence Estimate said. As Tenet would later testify, “We said that Saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until 2007 to 2009.” Bush did know whether or not Iraq had a nuclear weapon — and lied and said he didn’t know to hype the threat.


On CNN in September 2002, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice claimed that aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs.” This was precisely the opposite of what nuclear experts at the Energy Department were saying; they argued that not only was it very possible the tubes were for nonnuclear purposes but that it was very likely they were too. Even more dire assessments about the tubes from other agencies were exaggerated by administration officials — and in any case, the claim that they’re “only really suited” for nuclear weapons is just false.


On numerous occasions, Vice President Dick Cheney cited a report that 9/11 conspirator Mohamed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer. He said this after the CIA and FBI concluded that this meeting never took place.


In August 2002, Cheney declared, “Simply stated, there’s no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” But as Corn notes, at that time there was “no confirmed intelligence at this point establishing that Saddam had revived a major WMD operation.” Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had heard the same intelligence and attended Cheney’s speech, would later say in a documentary, “It was a total shock. I couldn’t believe the vice president was saying this, you know? In doing work with the CIA on Iraq WMD, through all the briefings I heard at Langley, I never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program.”
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Old 09-12-2021, 02:27 PM   #50
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The CIA said the the WMD's were a made up story by the Bush administration.



In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a “massive stockpile” of biological weapons. But as CIA Director George Tenet noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policymakers it had “no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons agent or stockpiles at Baghdad’s disposal.” The “massive stockpile” was just literally made up.



In December 2002, Bush declared, “We do not know whether or not [Iraq] has a nuclear weapon.” That was not what the National Intelligence Estimate said. As Tenet would later testify, “We said that Saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until 2007 to 2009.” Bush did know whether or not Iraq had a nuclear weapon — and lied and said he didn’t know to hype the threat.


On CNN in September 2002, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice claimed that aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs.” This was precisely the opposite of what nuclear experts at the Energy Department were saying; they argued that not only was it very possible the tubes were for nonnuclear purposes but that it was very likely they were too. Even more dire assessments about the tubes from other agencies were exaggerated by administration officials — and in any case, the claim that they’re “only really suited” for nuclear weapons is just false.


On numerous occasions, Vice President Dick Cheney cited a report that 9/11 conspirator Mohamed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer. He said this after the CIA and FBI concluded that this meeting never took place.


In August 2002, Cheney declared, “Simply stated, there’s no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” But as Corn notes, at that time there was “no confirmed intelligence at this point establishing that Saddam had revived a major WMD operation.” Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had heard the same intelligence and attended Cheney’s speech, would later say in a documentary, “It was a total shock. I couldn’t believe the vice president was saying this, you know? In doing work with the CIA on Iraq WMD, through all the briefings I heard at Langley, I never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program.”
And yet...none of this has been widely reported to the general public...because then the American people would find out that we knowingly destroyed a foreign country without a valid reason. But then again, they were Muslims so...who really gives a shit?
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And yet...none of this has been widely reported to the general public...because then the American people would find out that we knowingly destroyed a foreign country without a valid reason. But then again, they were Muslims so...who really gives a shit?
And we created that foreign country by installing Saddam Hussein as our puppet many may moons ago. We would have done the same to Greece for the oil, would you not agree?
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Too Bad the 4th plane......

Considering all the total BS that has come out if "our" House in the last 20 years, maybe the 4th plane should have hit the Capital.
I found our anthem for our new national holiday, JANUARY 6TH....

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Old 09-12-2021, 02:43 PM   #53
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And we created that foreign country by installing Saddam Hussein as our puppet many may moons ago. We would have done the same to Greece for the oil, would you not agree?
Absolutely!

The Greeks are lucky that they only produce yogurt and feta cheese.
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Absolutely!

The Greeks are lucky that they only produce yogurt and feta cheese.
So your statement "But then again, they were Muslims so...who really gives a shit?" is false. It is Not about the Muslims, Oil Baby.
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So your statement "But then again, they were Muslims so...who really gives a shit?" is false. It is Not about the Muslims, Oil Baby.
It's about the Muslims too. Attacking a Muslim country is a "safe" endeavor...because our media has already painted the Muslims as "America-hating terrorists". There is very little "sympathy" for the Muslims in this country...otherwise Bush and Cheney would be afraid to walk the streets.
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Absolutely!

The Greeks are lucky that they only produce yogurt and feta cheese.
And diners. Don't forget diners. Without Greeks, breakfast would go extinct.
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It's about the Muslims too. Attacking a Muslim country is a "safe" endeavor...because our media has already painted the Muslims as "America-hating terrorists". There is very little "sympathy" for the Muslims in this country...otherwise Bush and Cheney would be afraid to walk the streets.
We are not a racist country, the left believes in this woke shit. And is why I entered into your post. I was not afraid to say 41 was a player with Saddam Hussein making him a puppet. So I miss Paul Harvey Aurandt, better known as Paul Harvey and his famous The Rest of the Story. In our body politic it is very convenient to skew for political gain.
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It's about the Muslims too. Attacking a Muslim country is a "safe" endeavor...because our media has already painted the Muslims as "America-hating terrorists". There is very little "sympathy" for the Muslims in this country...otherwise Bush and Cheney would be afraid to walk the streets.
Which media is this?

The one that's been basically saying being White is a hate crime in and of itself, for the past 4+ years or so?
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And diners. Don't forget diners. Without Greeks, breakfast would go extinct.
And maybe the "Me To" might never have been.
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It's about the Muslims too. Attacking a Muslim country is a "safe" endeavor...because our media has already painted the Muslims as "America-hating terrorists". There is very little "sympathy" for the Muslims in this country...otherwise Bush and Cheney would be afraid to walk the streets.
So what happens when the media paints a red state, or any state, as "domestic America-hating terrorists"?
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