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Old 08-05-2021, 02:26 PM   #16
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Went to bed last night with a intermittent cough. Woke up way worse…constantly coughing, headache, fever and nausea. If I’m not marginally better tomorrow I’ll get tested.

If this is COVID and a mild case (having been vaccinated) I’d hate to experience the full blown deal.
TJDave...very much hoping it isn't...and you get better soon.
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:21 PM   #17
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TJ Dave hope you get well soon. This is not a vaccine, it is an experiment. Never has been approved.
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:38 PM   #18
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Went to bed last night with a intermittent cough. Woke up way worse…constantly coughing, headache, fever and nausea. If I’m not marginally better tomorrow I’ll get tested.

If this is COVID and a mild case (having been vaccinated) I’d hate to experience the full blown deal.
I've known quite a few people already (fully vaccinated) who have come down with symptoms of COVID, but get tested multiple times and it comes back negative.

People will still catch colds, flu, etc...or maybe the tests just suck.

Either way, you can see how confusion can reign supreme, even with SCIENCE!, and people's trust can be quickly lost.

Hope you feel better soon.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:40 PM   #19
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BS. Fake News. Lies. untrue.

Nationwide 1 out of every 8526 vaccinated persons has gotten a breakthrough infection. Do you expect us to believe that at this particular party 1of every 1.3 were infected? That is 6558 times the normal infection rate. Allan Massie is lying.
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Old 08-05-2021, 08:18 PM   #20
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BS. Fake News. Lies. untrue.

Nationwide 1 out of every 8526 vaccinated persons has gotten a breakthrough infection. Do you expect us to believe that at this particular party 1of every 1.3 were infected? That is 6558 times the normal infection rate. Allan Massie is lying.
You don't know that that because the CDC is manipulating the breakthrough numbers in at least two ways: The 13-day vaxxwindow that doesn't count as vaxxed people... and the fact that only deaths and hospitalizations are getting reported as breakthroughs because they are so rare, of course. And these are facts per the CDC! No fake news or lies here.
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Old 08-05-2021, 08:27 PM   #21
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BS. Fake News. Lies. untrue.

Nationwide 1 out of every 8526 vaccinated persons has gotten a breakthrough infection. Do you expect us to believe that at this particular party 1of every 1.3 were infected? That is 6558 times the normal infection rate. Allan Massie is lying.
Of course it is... for no other reason than you said so right.

Shit over 10% of the fleeing Texas Dim's came down with Vid even though they were full poked. So how does that impact your 1 in 8526 stat. That small group was 8 in 50. So if we run the numbers its more like 1,364.2 in 8526 that are breakthrough cases. And I'm sure that is a low... face it covid is another failure for Joe.
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Old 08-05-2021, 08:35 PM   #22
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Don't believe the snot-faced little gypsy at the press briefings either.
She was there again today spewing "misinformation" as they call it. I call it broad-faced lying.
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Old 08-05-2021, 09:09 PM   #24
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People as a whole are really stupid these days. It's amazing to me that with all the information available to us, so many choose to be dumb sheep and not think for themselves.
You say information, I say rhetoric. Who do we trust? CDC? Biden? fAUCI?


Sloppy Joe today, no mask, mingling close up face to face with kids, breathing right into their faces. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, all no masks, all close contact with kis too young to be vaccinated. The group they tell are at huge risk......

SCIENCE, BAY-BAY.
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Old 08-05-2021, 09:39 PM   #25
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I get the flu vaccine every year. I have done this for 40 years.

Hmmm, I wonder why I still get the flu some years.
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Old 08-05-2021, 10:30 PM   #26
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I get the flu vaccine every year. I have done this for 40 years.

Hmmm, I wonder why I still get the flu some years.
The reason is actually what they tell you. I believe the last flu shot I took is November 2007, I used to scan everything into PDF. I was thinking those poor people in nursing homes and other names for them must be in the high 96 % + who got the flu shot generally speaking. Being a horse player looking at data is not that difficult, so early on I thought what if this is a bio weapon and those who religiously take the flu shot might be more susceptible or not.
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Old 08-05-2021, 10:33 PM   #27
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Back in the beginning masks, social distancing and/or lockdowns were supposed to do that.



You know not of what you speak, sir!

There are only two ways for a community to reach herd immunity: through the natural development of antibodies OR vaccination. (emphasis mine)

The immune system naturally develops resistance to a disease after being infected, although “immunity” occurs at varying levels depending upon the individual and the disease. This is how people resisted disease for centuries before vaccines began to be consistently developed in the 1800s and widely distributed in the 1900s.


https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/he...herd-immunity/

If herd immunity had to be a combination of both, as you claim, the human race would have become extinct long ago.

Have a nice day, sir.

What is herd Immunity?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html
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Several weeks ago the Brits told us the truth. Fully 40% of new cases of covid were from vaccinated people. Why do some discount this number. Why would the Brits say this since it goes against the govt push to get vaccinated. Sometimes the truth is in front of you.

Conversely, the American govt tells us the the vaccine is 97% or 99% effective when in ideal testing, it was no more than 95% effective and in the case of Moderna was only 70% effective. When in your life have you seen something be more effective than advertised? You never have and never will. The American govt is lying to us. The British government told the truth. We can't move forward until the lying stops.
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Several weeks ago the Brits told us the truth. Fully 40% of new cases of covid were from vaccinated people. Why do some discount this number. Why would the Brits say this since it goes against the govt push to get vaccinated. Sometimes the truth is in front of you.

Conversely, the American govt tells us the the vaccine is 97% or 99% effective when in ideal testing, it was no more than 95% effective and in the case of Moderna was only 70% effective. When in your life have you seen something be more effective than advertised? You never have and never will. The American govt is lying to us. The British government told the truth. We can't move forward until the lying stops.

#1 prerequisite to being in American politics is you must be a great liar and it doesn't matter what side of the line your on, Republican or Democrat. This man I new while growing up, once told me Democrats will tell you how terrible it is, while the Republicans tell you everything is good.
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Several weeks ago the Brits told us the truth. Fully 40% of new cases of covid were from vaccinated people. Why do some discount this number. Why would the Brits say this since it goes against the govt push to get vaccinated. Sometimes the truth is in front of you.

Conversely, the American govt tells us the the vaccine is 97% or 99% effective when in ideal testing, it was no more than 95% effective and in the case of Moderna was only 70% effective. When in your life have you seen something be more effective than advertised? You never have and never will. The American govt is lying to us. The British government told the truth. We can't move forward until the lying stops.
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