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Old 12-21-2020, 12:45 AM   #1
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Los Al in a huge crapstorm with the CHRB

Details here:

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...o-close-track/

They just tweeted this:


Their fatality rate was appalling this year, so I understand why CHRB is playing hardball with them.

But to be clear, while Los Alamitos' thoroughbred meet is stupid and unnecessary, it may be the most important quarter horse track in the country. Any sort of closure would grievously harm quarter horse racing in America. And it looks like the two sides are at loggerheads.
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Old 12-21-2020, 05:00 AM   #2
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CHRB can kiss my ass. SoCal needs another track. Can't just be Santa Anita and Del Mar over there
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Old 12-21-2020, 05:42 AM   #3
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Old 12-21-2020, 10:06 AM   #4
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CHRB can kiss my ass. SoCal needs another track. Can't just be Santa Anita and Del Mar over there
We really don't, for thoroughbreds. As long as GGF is running when our tracks aren't, things would work out OK.

But quarter horse racing DOES need Los Al.
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Old 12-21-2020, 10:25 AM   #5
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We really don't, for thoroughbreds. As long as GGF is running when our tracks aren't, things would work out OK.

But quarter horse racing DOES need Los Al.
How is a synthetic track that is 400 miles away a substitute for Los Alamitos?
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Old 12-21-2020, 01:29 PM   #6
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How is a synthetic track that is 400 miles away a substitute for Los Alamitos?
I don't know, how is a track with a crappy layout, overly tight turns, and no turf course adequate for thoroughbred racing in Southern California? Remember, a lot of horses are resting or shipping out during the Los Al meets already.
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:30 PM   #7
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“Los Alamitos will be requesting reconsideration of the action taken by the board and hopes that its request will be acted on in an expedited manner,” Jack Liebau, the track's vice president, told the Los Angeles Times.

Jack Liebau Mucky Muck @ Bay Meadows... Developed

Jack Liebau Mucky Muck @ Hollywood Park... Developed

Jack Liebau @ Los Alamitos... ?

Allred deserves Kudos for stepping in and attempting to aid SoCal racing. Perhaps not so much with the TB meet they run, but with stabling. As to Los Al being most important QH track in the nation. With the exception of their biggest monied races the QH races at Los Al are a side note. Gone are the Los Al days of Bobby Adair, Danny Cardoza, John Watson, Charlie Smith, Kenny Hart. I would argue if the QH racing was still at its heyday at Los Al Allred would not have needed to step in and help the TB industry.
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Old 12-21-2020, 05:00 PM   #8
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When HP closed they should have went to Pomona for a permanent solution. It was rigged then and it is rigged now. Short term thinking won again.
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Old 12-21-2020, 05:37 PM   #9
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When HP closed they should have went to Pomona for a permanent solution. It was rigged then and it is rigged now. Short term thinking won again.
What they should have done is shrink from two circuits to one (as California was when it was successful from the 1930's to the 1960's).

And that's still what they should do. With one circuit, we'd probably have lots of full fields and good, bettable races. We might even (in non-coronavirus times) increase attendance.
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Old 12-22-2020, 09:43 AM   #10
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CHRB can kiss my ass. SoCal needs another track. Can't just be Santa Anita and Del Mar over there
The best SoCal track (by far) closed in 2013...
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It is amazing how much better Santa Anita has done for horses dying the last year.
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:24 AM   #12
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The stopped running on unsafe tracks, wasn't that the main reason?
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:34 AM   #13
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The stopped running on unsafe tracks, wasn't that the main reason?
Regression to the mean is probably a lot more likely, but of course I am sure the little things they did probably had a small effect.
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The best SoCal track (by far) closed in 2013...
It was my favorite.
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Old 12-22-2020, 12:51 PM   #15
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Regression to the mean is probably a lot more likely, but of course I am sure the little things they did probably had a small effect.
I give them a little more credit than that. Regression to the mean is one thing, but this is better IMO.

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