maxfield and dr post ran identical races

[boys at tosconova]

in almost identical time.

i think dr post trip was much worse. maxfield faced a lil better field, but ny traffic seems distance challenged and was silenced by wells bayou, who in turn had no answer for nadal and king g

both could/should get better in distance, and they'll need to only running 143

hopefully max will turn up in the belmont

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[f2tornado]

The final splits in Matt Winn were 24.48 for the 3/4 to mile and a strong 6.13 for the final half panel. Max was 2.5 back at the stretch call and was cut off too. He's got a serious late kick that strangely didn't look that fast on initial view. Equibase fig came in light but still an improve over previous. Shoud be a solid contender. I think Dr Post is good fit for a one turn Belmont and might offer some value. Less convinced he's a true Derby contender.

[letswastemoney]

What's the point of comparing raw fractions/times at different racetracks?

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

The final splits in Matt Winn were 24.48 for the 3/4 to mile and a strong 6.13 for the final half panel. Max was 2.5 back at the stretch call and was cut off too. He's got a serious late kick that strangely didn't look that fast on initial view. Equibase fig came in light but still an improve over previous. Shoud be a solid contender. I think Dr Post is good fit for a one turn Belmont and might offer some value. Less convinced he's a true Derby contender.

max left with conviction but backed it off, even though the fractions were not fast. at one point early he was like 6w and the 11 and 12 were outside of him. it's weird to leave and drop back 8th like he did.

as for dr post, he seems like a lazy horse. he also left and dropped back. but the trip was less than ideal, and could have caused it. he looked like he needed to be driven hard because he wasn't interested enough.

it's nice to see stop and go dimensions racing in between a blanket of horses from both of them.

it's even uncanny that both even pulled away at the end, even though it took the good dr longer to kick it into gear

[AMPHAR]

The jockey on Maxfield was looking over his shoulder just before the wire. I think he had a lot more to give.

[Blenheim]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

What's the point of comparing raw fractions/times at different racetracks?

• 49.25; 72.95; 97.39; 109.30 - 98 - Maxfield
• 46.16; 70.67; 97.54; 109.52 - 99 - Nadal
• 48.73; 71.83; 96.74; 108.27 - 99 - Sole Volante
• 48.03; 72.26; 96.87; 109.33 - 98 - Tiz the Law

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Before Nadal retired, I wanted to know if he could overcome the percentages and win more than (4) straight. I looked at his numbers and I compared them to the top contenders. Above is the 4, 6, 8 and 9 furlong raw average fractional times for Maxfield, Nadal, Sole Volante and Tiz the Law.

The times for Maxfield are derived from the Breeders Futurity and Matt Winn Stakes; Nadal from the Rebel Stakes and Arkansas Derby; Sole Volante from the Mucho Macho Man Stakes, Sam F. Davis Stakes and Tampa Bay Derby; Tiz the Law from the Champagne Stakes, Kentucky Jockey Club Stakes, Holy Bull Stakes and Florida Derby. The red numbers represent the average BRIS speed figure.

The numbers proved interesting. I figured that if Nadal could slow down early, he had a legit shot to win (5) straight, but he'd have to overcome the fresh legs of Sole Volante. Unfortunately, those two will never meet, so we will never know . . .

[burnsy]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

What's the point of comparing raw fractions/times at different racetracks?

Totally agree with this. Plus, the obvious difference is Max was returning from an injury. He’s one strapping son of a bitch that looked great . They wanted to know if he could still get it done though. He was probably at about 85 to 90 percent and made that field look stupid. He wanted more and was throttled down. If he can kick it up one more notch..... he’s the real deal IMO. Times and numbers are ok but I like to look at the horse and the replay too. The word “ prep” applies to these two races . I just think Max can do more if healthy