ThoroGraph...

[Saratoga]

The usual year end "free gift" is here again...

Maybe someone can take a deep dive into this and report back....

I can't because I'm into other things....

[Bennie]

Just what I see today, although I'm no expert.
Race 3) #2 is key with 6,4,5
Race4) #4,5 ran nice numbers and should be used
Race5) #2 is probable key with 4,6. I'm fading the 7on possible regression. Will look at 2/46 exacta and w/p on 6.
Race6) What will stiletto do after being eased last 2 races? Taking either the import(#5) or #3 with blinkers off equipment change or passing completely.
Race7) not impressed with anyone. Maybe a stab with #2 long shot to hit the board.
Race8)#1 rounding back into form, #2 double 0 from an 11, #3 double 0 off a 9, #7 ran a 1 after four 6's in a row and #8 rounding into top form. Any of these 5 horses can win. I will pass and just watch.
Race9) Will use the #4 with #6 underneath in some manner.
Race10)#3 raced twice but ran best number of these, can he run back to it? And #4ran back to his best number, can he now move forward? Not crazy about the #9 and possible favorite running four 6's in a row and seemingly stuck there, will play against and hope for the best.
These are the way I see by thorograph but they don't all agree with what I see when handicapping as I normally do. Will see which is more accurate.

[Saratoga]

Originally Posted by Bennie

Just what I see today, although I'm no expert.
Race 3) #2 is key with 6,4,5
Race4) #4,5 ran nice numbers and should be used
Race5) #2 is probable key with 4,6. I'm fading the 7on possible regression. Will look at 2/46 exacta and w/p on 6.
Race6) What will stiletto do after being eased last 2 races? Taking either the import(#5) or #3 with blinkers off equipment change or passing completely.
Race7) not impressed with anyone. Maybe a stab with #2 long shot to hit the board.
Race8)#1 rounding back into form, #2 double 0 from an 11, #3 double 0 off a 9, #7 ran a 1 after four 6's in a row and #8 rounding into top form. Any of these 5 horses can win. I will pass and just watch.
Race9) Will use the #4 with #6 underneath in some manner.
Race10)#3 raced twice but ran best number of these, can he run back to it? And #4ran back to his best number, can he now move forward? Not crazy about the #9 and possible favorite running four 6's in a row and seemingly stuck there, will play against and hope for the best.
These are the way I see by thorograph but they don't all agree with what I see when handicapping as I normally do. Will see which is more accurate.

Nice work up.....

Keep it going

[djm1959]

just give me pps i dont need other numbers added

[Saratoga]

Originally Posted by djm1959

just give me pps i dont need other numbers added

I hear you....but the question is????

Who has the best?

[Bennie]

Just got back from running errands and after a quick look over todays cards, I'll post a few that look live today. Unfortunately, some look short on price.

Tampa
2nd) 5 with the 1,2
6th) #1
7th) #4

Parx
4th) #8

Mahoning
6th) #3

[Bennie]

Yesterday, races 3,4,5 all ran to form for small exactas, doubles and the pick 3 along with a cheap trifecta.
Race 8 was a toss up but the horses listed filled the trifecta.
Race 9 ran 2nd and 3rd.
Even races where they didn't win, they showed to be live.
You also have to remember that you are not just looking for the live horses, you are also looking for ones that may not be but are going to be bet. Such as the #7 horse in race 5 and the #9 horse in race 10. Both of which I excluded from my wagers.

[djm1959]

those pages remind me of school -requires thinking,, im old no way!! ill bet my age every race lol

[cj]

Originally Posted by djm1959

those pages remind me of school -requires thinking,, im old no way!! ill bet my age every race lol

There is zero reason for you to participate in this thread. It is a product being given away from free. If you don't want to use it, don't. You don't need to tell us two times why you don't want something given for free.

[Saratoga]

I'm not sure if this still goes but I used this angle , that was quite good......

Since the whole horses PP's were shown , I would find an off track that was running today and check all the horses that ran winning races on an off track......

This goes beyond 10 races for you to see this..when,where,and how fast

Try Aqueduct today...it poured all night

[Bennie]

Off tracks, off turf, and layoffs might influence todays prospects and effect prices, but here goes.

Aqueduct-
Race 3) looking at the #3
Race 5) #12 will be my play
Race 6) #1a would be the play but concerned about the repeated vet scr.
Race 7) #2 would be the play but coming off long layoff. #2/3,6 ex. #3w/p

Gulfstream-don't usually play 2yr. but might make a couple small plays.
Race 1) #4 could be live (going to box with #3)
Race 4) small play on the #2
Race 5) #2 is the key

Mahoning-
Race 4) #4 is the key but might end up very short.
Race 7) looks like between the #1 and#6

Again, I don't see a lot of value in any one race, so I'll look to horizontals. Looks like lots of action tomorrow based on all the tracks running. Maybe we can find a couple of gems or favorites to fade.

[Saratoga]

Originally Posted by Bennie

Off tracks, off turf, and layoffs might influence todays prospects and effect prices, but here goes.

Aqueduct-
Race 3) looking at the #3
Race 5) #12 will be my play
Race 6) #1a would be the play but concerned about the repeated vet scr.
Race 7) #2 would be the play but coming off long layoff. #2/3,6 ex. #3w/p

Gulfstream-don't usually play 2yr. but might make a couple small plays.
Race 1) #4 could be live (going to box with #3)
Race 4) small play on the #2
Race 5) #2 is the key

Mahoning-
Race 4) #4 is the key but might end up very short.
Race 7) looks like between the #1 and#6

Again, I don't see a lot of value in any one race, so I'll look to horizontals. Looks like lots of action tomorrow based on all the tracks running. Maybe we can find a couple of gems or favorites to fade.

thx...good luck

Like I said prior...Aqueduct is muddy...

do you see any good races that a horse ran in the mud/slop at AQU?

[Bennie]

Saratoga- didn't pay close attention to most of the races as I was looking more at the numbers and patterns but the 2nd race where the #1,4 and 6 are playable, the #1 and 4 have run a better thorograph number on a wet track. From what I saw, the 3 and 5 are a toss. The #2, although showing progressive numbers , shows a 7 and 8 on wet. The #6 shows a 5 and 7 on a wet. The #1 shows a 3 and 1, while the #4 shows a 2. Except race 4, where the #6 might have a slight edge, I think a lot of the other races, the numbers were too close to separate and no one really stood out.

[Saratoga]

Originally Posted by Bennie

Saratoga- didn't pay close attention to most of the races as I was looking more at the numbers and patterns but the 2nd race where the #1,4 and 6 are playable, the #1 and 4 have run a better thorograph number on a wet track. From what I saw, the 3 and 5 are a toss. The #2, although showing progressive numbers , shows a 7 and 8 on wet. The #6 shows a 5 and 7 on a wet. The #1 shows a 3 and 1, while the #4 shows a 2. Except race 4, where the #6 might have a slight edge, I think a lot of the other races, the numbers were too close to separate and no one really stood out.

the 2 wins....please continue looking at this...

just to prove things

[5thstreetpicks]

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