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12-15-2017, 07:55 PM
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Pegasus Cup
I haven't been the biggest fan of this race, as it never really made sense to me from a monetary standpoint.
Either way, this year's edition may well set up to be a really damn good race.
https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...ontenders_123#
Likely contenders:
Gun Runner
Collected
West Coast
Gunnevera
Forever Unbridled
Seeking the Soul
Sharp Azteca
Toast of New York
War Story
Other possibles being Mind Your Biscuits and Stellar Wind
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12-15-2017, 08:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
I haven't been the biggest fan of this race, as it never really made sense to me from a monetary standpoint.
Either way, this year's edition may well set up to be a really damn good race.
https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...ontenders_123#
Likely contenders:
Gun Runner
Collected
West Coast
Gunnevera
Forever Unbridled
Seeking the Soul
Sharp Azteca
Toast of New York
War Story
Other possibles being Mind Your Biscuits and Stellar Wind
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You don't like stakes races with 12 horse fields?
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12-15-2017, 09:10 PM
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I am looking forward to seeing West Coast at 4. He was improving with every start at 3.
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12-15-2017, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
I am looking forward to seeing West Coast at 4. He was improving with every start at 3.
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Am as well. Could be a monster.
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12-15-2017, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ronsmac
You don't like stakes races with 12 horse fields?
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Yeah. Well..
I just didn't see it fitting in the calendar for top end horses that aren't in the breeding shed.
Now?
It makes sense.
Why not gear a great horse around a BC/Pegasus/World Cup payout extravaganza?
The new age older horse Triple Crown?
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12-15-2017, 10:00 PM
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Pegasus? Bring it on. Nothing else happening. I'll be watching. The only thing I'd like to see is Arrogate get another chance. I know Baffert said He's not the same horse and He's not going to run him again, but , I can't help thinking that We'll never know if it was the Delmar track. Maybe he didn't like those condos on the hill, I don't. The horse is not injured and it wouldn't devalue his stud value one penny. He is the defending champ and a horse people want to see.
And you could be damm sure he'd get some interest at the window, hey, I'd take him at 25-1.
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12-15-2017, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redboard
Pegasus? Bring it on. Nothing else happening. I'll be watching. The only thing I'd like to see is Arrogate get another chance. I know Baffert said He's not the same horse and He's not going to run him again, but , I can't help thinking that We'll never know if it was the Delmar track. Maybe he didn't like those condos on the hill, I don't. The horse is not injured and it wouldn't devalue his stud value one penny. He is the defending champ and a horse people want to see.
And you could be damm sure he'd get some interest at the window, hey, I'd take him at 25-1.
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Don't do that to me.
I want to see Arrogate run again.
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12-15-2017, 11:33 PM
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If Arrogate ran, I would bet everything in my pockets against him.
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12-16-2017, 01:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
If Arrogate ran, I would bet everything in my pockets against him.
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Even the keys to your Jaguar?
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12-16-2017, 07:46 AM
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The Pegasus was designed to be a competitive race just like every other stakes race, but with the largest payout of any race in the world. Last year Arrogate was the top horse in the nation by far, California Chrome was on the return and the match race was on. The rest of the field was running for third and forth monies, Frank got the place with SG, after CC didn't take to the track. The media hype on CC vs Arrogate kept everyone glued to their TV that day. The t shirts and assorted fan gear at GP sold out the day of the race, the marketing was top notch!
Those who spent the 1 million for a starting spot or more have no remorse as it is evident they have that kind of money to spend.
This year the race will be a lot more competitive, just like how Frank planned it. The buzz is in the air at GP and throughout the racing world.
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12-16-2017, 12:19 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onefast99
The Pegasus was designed to be a competitive race just like every other stakes race, but with the largest payout of any race in the world. Last year Arrogate was the top horse in the nation by far, California Chrome was on the return and the match race was on. The rest of the field was running for third and forth monies, Frank got the place with SG, after CC didn't take to the track. The media hype on CC vs Arrogate kept everyone glued to their TV that day. The t shirts and assorted fan gear at GP sold out the day of the race, the marketing was top notch!
Those who spent the 1 million for a starting spot or more have no remorse as it is evident they have that kind of money to spend.
This year the race will be a lot more competitive, just like how Frank planned it. The buzz is in the air at GP and throughout the racing world.
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Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman!
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12-16-2017, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman!
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Agreed. CC shot his wad in the BC Classic.
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12-16-2017, 06:20 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Agreed. CC shot his wad in the BC Classic.
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He also had a pretty brutal trip in the Pegasus if memory serves.
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12-16-2017, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman!
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Per Sherman after the race he didn't cool out well, looked like fluid on the right knee. At the half mile marker CC folded, if it was the track or the weight he carried no one will ever know.
Arrogate wasn't getting beat that day.
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12-16-2017, 09:10 PM
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California Chrome's post position was brutal. He didn't clear on the first turn, and the pace wasn't slow, so it was too difficult to recover.
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