Orb checklist. Humbling game?

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by pandy

Cincy, you must not have followed the pre-Derby hype. On TVG, HRTV, and in the racing papers, Sports Illustrated and other publications, ORB was being talked about as a top class horse. I saw three headlines, including one from Sports Illustrated, and these are the exact headlines:

"Why Orb will win the Triple Crown." (LOL)

"Orb finishes fast to win the Derby." (He didn't finish fast.)

"Orbs dominant come from behind victory." (His victory wasn't dominant."

All incorrect and misleading. Nothing wrong with discussing this so people don't make the same mistake next time.

Gotcha Bob.And you're right,no matter the philosophical implications I prefer to live in the universe of my own thoughts for the most part!I didn't get exposed to that blowhard express you mentioned.A little from TVG.None of the rest.I felt confident in his form cycle to bet him in the Derby but the distance,pace scenario,triple top,and odds made him a no play to win.I made one small bet on a median payout exacta with Goldcents.I was wondering where all of this poste haste angst was coming from.I really don't listen to any of that.I discussed the derby on here prior and the preps but I'm pretty uninfluenced by beat writers on the subject.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by JPinMaryland

while we're on the subject of final fractions, what did people think of the Ark Derby? They kept knocking the final time which was slow, but I thought Overanalyze finished up pretty strong. Going from Downey's site, it looks like they ran a very slow fourth quarter, I dunno where Overanalyze was at that pt. in the race, But I thought he finished up decently; but a lot of people were knocking him. And what happened to Oxbow there? Just didn't run?

He got brilliantly taken out of his running style.The trainer was just experimenting with him still.It happens.

[pandy]

Yes it seemed that Steven was trying to see if he could rate and close in that race.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by pandy

Yes it seemed that Steven was trying to see if he could rate and close in that race.

Like I said earlier.It was the 2012 BC Classic all over again.Goldcents=Game On Dude,Orb=Flat Out,Fort Larned=Oxbow.

Except for Oxbow was far less accomplished.But the idiocy of the trainers allowed for the clear lead in both.The more I play this game,other than fevers and foot issues I think these trainers don't know anymore about this game as it plays out than us.Once the horses leave the track=absolutely.Ontrack=not hardly.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer

Like I said earlier.It was the 2012 BC Classic all over again.Goldcents=Game On Dude,Orb=Flat Out,Fort Larned=Oxbow.

Except for Oxbow was far less accomplished.But the idiocy of the trainers allowed for the clear lead in both.The more I play this game,other than fevers and foot issues I think these trainers don't know anymore about this game as it plays out than us.Once the horses leave the track=absolutely.Ontrack=not hardly.

The only thing they know more about than the serious prepared player is the current condition of their own horse. Give me the guy who knows ALL the horses and can analyze a race over the guy who isnt spending hours watching tape and crunching numbers.

[Stillriledup]

Tom Hammond "what happened to Orb"

Randy Moss "we've all gone thru the checklist"

Hmmmmm.