Climate Change

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Going for the record?
5 in a row.

I'm impressed.

Tyson should impress you, if not the 97% iof the scientific consensus. Unless you think they are all liberals out to trick you.

[Tom]

Tyson chicken?

Love it!

btw, I take it back - Burls just posted 6 in a row in the other thread.

You're back to an also-ran.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Tyson chicken?

Love it!

btw, I take it back - Burls just posted 6 in a row in the other thread.

You're back to an also-ran.

You've been one ever since you ignorantly proclaimed the 2 Bems of AGW

[Tom]

If not for my posts, you would have won the title.

The two Bens....Twins of Truth.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

If not for my posts, you would have won the title.

The two Bens....Twins of Truth.

Total bullshit. You and the rest of the anti-science republicans and Trumpeteers are ignoring the overwhelming numbers of real scientists in favor of paranoid conspiracy theories that liberals and dems have put up all the worlds scientists in cosmic secret cabals to fool the "good but of course not dumb conservative jackasses" who cannot understand the evidence right before their noses. But would rather kiss your two Ben's wrong asses.

Btw, just because it's been cooler and warmer in the past, it does not mean that presently the trend in global warming is not due to humanity. Of course one must study the past to understand differences and not blindly assume the same exact causes are in effect today.

They are NOT

We must study and not be frightened this big word... "Paleoclimatology"...

...Paleoclimatology is the study of changes in climate taken on the scale of the entire history of Earth. It uses a variety of proxy methods from the Earth and life sciences to obtain data previously preserved within things such as rocks, sediments, ice sheets, tree rings, corals, shells, and microfossils. It then uses the records to determine the past states of the Earth's various climate regions and its atmospheric system. Studies of past changes in the environment and biodiversity often reflect on the current situation, specifically the impact of climate on mass extinctions and biotic recovery.
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Pay attention to Tyson and the world's consensus of scientists. The know a hell or lot more than you and your idiot republican inept non-scientist Jim Inhofe do

[Buckeye]

Come on, the average temperature on Venus is 864 degrees Fahrenheit, the average temperature on Mercury is 332 F, while the average temperature on Mars is -67 F.

Nobody (human) lives on any of these planets as far as we know.

[Nitro]

Some related information:

Scientists have long known that the axis on which the planet spins is prone to wavering, but some of the reasons have escaped understanding.

But researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory say droughts and heavy periods of rain in different places around the planet are causing Earth to shake in space.

"We are going through this massive global-scale climate change, to such a degree that the change in climate has been strong enough to affect the rotation of such a giant planet," said study co-author Surendra Adhikari of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Since 2000, the Earth's axis has jumped eastward by about 7 inches a year, a "massive swing," Adhikari said. Another pattern of wobbling that occurs every 6 to 14 years has been vexing scientists for more than a CENTURY. The researchers examined both in their study.

The movements of the Earth's axis are crucial to understand, since they affect the performance of satellites and global positioning systems. The polar axis also could become a powerful indicator for scientists studying climate change, Adhikari said.

Scientists have thought the melting and forming of ice sheets around the world changed the distribution of mass around the planet enough to shift the polar axis. And indeed they do, Adhikari said. The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are responsible for most of the force pulling and pushing the polar axis.

But Adhikari and Erik Ivins, both researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, charted the maximum impact these kinds of changes could have on the movement of the axis and determined there had to be some other force at work.

Examining images from the GRACE satellite, Adhikari and Ivins found that changes in the amount of water on land corresponds to the shifts in the axis. Just as ice piling up adds mass to an area, so does water accumulating in lakes, reservoirs, or aquifers, pushing the axis away from an area.

And as continents dry out during periods without water, they lose mass, which pulls the axis toward them.

"Imagine we have a perfect sphere that is rotating on an axis," Adhikari said. "If you remove a chunk of material from any location of that idealized sphere, then you are perturbing the system, and the axis tends to head toward the location where you lose the mass."

Effects from droughts or wet seasons are responsible for about 25 percent to 30 percent of the force pushing and pulling the polar axis. The movement is small — a few inches a year — but it can have serious effects.
"This delicate motion of the pole has to be taken into account to get accurate results from GPS, for example," Adhikari said.

The question is what is the remaining 70 to 75% of the force causing the axis shift caused by.
I highly doubt its just climate change.
If fact, I believe climate change is a result of the axis shifting.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Buckeye

Come on, the average temperature on Venus is 864 degrees Fahrenheit, the average temperature on Mercury is 332 F, while the average temperature on Mars is -67 F.

Nobody (human) lives on any of these planets as far as we know.

No one contends AGW is responsible either.

BTW, you forgot the average temp on the sun is EVEN much much higher

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Nitro

Some related information:


The question is what is the remaining 70 to 75% of the force causing the axis shift caused by.
I highly doubt its just climate change.
If fact, I believe climate change is a result of the axis shifting.

You may claim anything you want.
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.” ....― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Any proof? How many accredited climate scientists agree with your assumption?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by hcap

Whomever your expert is, he is no match for Neil deGrasse Tyson explaining your and this boards ridiculous anti-science bias and ignorance.

https://youtu.be/8MqTOEospfo

It really does not matter does it, policy change is not for you.

YouTube

[hcap]

Originally Posted by fast4522

It really does not matter does it, policy change is not for you.

Logical thinking and science is certainly not for you

[Buckeye]

There is so much science doesn't know-- the mind boggles.

Honest scientists admit that upfront by definition.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by hcap

Logical thinking and science is certainly not for you

You will never see policy change when we redistribute wealth under that guise.

[Buckeye]

Originally Posted by fast4522

It really does not matter does it

Reminds me of Pale Rider.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Buckeye

There is so much science doesn't know-- the mind boggles.

Honest scientists admit that upfront by definition.

So what? Does that mean much of what science knows now is wrong?