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Old 09-12-2009, 02:59 PM   #91
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Handi/Doug: I play almost exclusively on poly (Socal circuit) and the HandiFast produced FAST # works much better for me than the FAST # that is produced by Doug's summary, which may well work better on the tracks that Doug plays.

If possible, without causing confusion, if we are migrating to one program, can we keep a separate column for the HandiFAST # and the DougFAST #?

Thanks for considering this and for all the hard work.

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Old 09-12-2009, 03:03 PM   #92
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Turns out it was some kind of security setting that blocked it from being run. Cliff figured it out so he's all good now.

Also, send me your source when you get a chance. I want to look at it just for snicks. Thx.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:16 PM   #93
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It gets even better...at least I think so. I've never been one to be able to keep a secret so here is what I'm working on.....Handifast with headhawg's new mitchel numbers and program will work off just the main screen. losing the little blue box to load track and races.

That will be done in upper right corner of main screen, with the ability to play 5 tracks simultaneously moving from one to the other with just one button click.

There will be a summary print option to printer. Once this is all done, I will then put together the ability to print to csv file.
All this sounds real nice, Handi. I am looking forward to seeing it.
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:48 PM   #94
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Handi/Doug: I play almost exclusively on poly (Socal circuit) and the HandiFast produced FAST # works much better for me than the FAST # that is produced by Doug's summary, which may well work better on the tracks that Doug plays.

If possible, without causing confusion, if we are migrating to one program, can we keep a separate column for the HandiFAST # and the DougFAST #?

Thanks for considering this and for all the hard work.
I agree, I use it for NYRA exclusively and tank every time I hit SoCal

A column for each would be the way to go, just rename each.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:45 AM   #95
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NEW LINK

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http://localpcpros.com/HandiFAST_Version_X.exe

Okay, I know, I know...But I just can not help myself sometimes.

Improvements...Ranks FTS on factors other than Speed and Pace (obviously)
But only compare FTS to other FTS.

Has an improved MUD figure. That calculates for Grass moved to dirt.

Automatic adjustment for Dirt/Turf/All Weather.

Changes the way the software is opened, One button opens, handi's add on, the summary and the default program your chosen datafile uses.

Of course once this happens you need to choose the files for those two programs, after the summary opens in your browser, but it saves me some mouse clicks. Since I use all 3.

Leaves the program open so more info can be gathered using the HandicapperDaily web page... and Ray's Exacta and Dutching programs.

The fast figure itself is improved.

Uses your own browser of choice now instead of Chrome.

and the best part, RUNS UNDER LINUX using WINE again!

Is a much smaller download

It can be run from anywhere again and pull data from anywhere (I know some like to handicap on other peoples computers without the need to install)

Note: to use handi's you still need to throw the data files into C:\Horse\Data\

And includes a folder with all of the source code.

Printing has to be set to landscape.

Enjoy.

Many have asked for the original version and it is still here... but I really would not trust that FAST figure compared to what handi's and the new one does.

http://localpcpros.com/FASTv8.exe

The URL has changed for the update I have been using, a better FAST number, threw in a consistency figure not what HH has in handifast but I thought I would play with the idea a bit. Fixed the SP1

get it here.

http://localpcpros.com/HandiFAST_Version_X_Fixed.exe
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:24 AM   #96
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This is the coolest thing I have ever used.

if you put this line

Explorer.exe C:\Infotran

into the (Config 'myprogram.txt') file in handifast Ver X it opens the folder where the setup goes on, a few steps and you have a fully editable PP.

Thanks RAY (Great work) I can not begin to imagine what went into building that control file and those macros. I doubt I will ever use the BRIS PP generator again.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:05 AM   #97
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douglas

could u explain a bit more how u made a printable or editable pp

like the bris generator.you lost me!!

thanks
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:20 AM   #98
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douglas

could u explain a bit more how u made a printable or editable pp

like the bris generator.you lost me!!

thanks
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Go to this thread...
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=59541

Read through.. at the end RAYBO has links in his signature to his website that explains the process..

Maybe he will start a thread on just this... but for now it is towards the end of this one.

Amazing work, takes some setup but his instructions on his web site are spot on.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:16 PM   #99
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The URL has changed for the update I have been using, a better FAST number, threw in a consistency figure not what HH has in handifast but I thought I would play with the idea a bit. Fixed the SP1

get it here.

http://localpcpros.com/HandiFAST_Version_X_Fixed.exe

ARGHHH it had a BUG ! crashed on Belmont.

New LINK (Sorry) but it is fixed.

http://localpcpros.com/HandiFAST_Version_X_fixed2.exe
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:34 PM   #100
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HandiFast Version X

Is there a thread that explains the mechanics of this program?
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:52 AM   #101
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I'm not sure what you mean by "mechanics". How the code works or how to use the program? Or, maybe something else altogether??
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:49 AM   #102
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HANDIFAST VERSION X

Bro. Headhawg, what I mean is some sort of tutorial on how the program works, or a brief explanation of the handicapping factors used to create the program.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:53 PM   #103
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It's hard to get into all of the details, but mainly FAST and Handifast are programs that use a combined pace/speed number modified by form points. They both center around the FAST fig which weights the above and adds other elements to it like Wm Scott's PCR. Handifast, which I'm more familiar with, also produces its Top 4 picks with fair odds that uses weighted factors including the FAST fig, jockey/trainer %, etc. Handifast HHX (the version included in Doug's FAST version X download) also adds modified versions of the Dick Mitchell ratings found in one of his books. See post #74.

I imagine that people use the program differently, and I've only used it for bug fix testing purposes not for actual play. Run the program on some previous files and you'll see what works and what doesn't. The FAST fig is pretty damn good (thanks Doug), and so are the Top 4 picks. But for certain tracks/races the PWR number, and to a lesser extent the C-C and P-S numbers are strong as well. And if I told you how I use it, well, that would be giving a handicapper's secret away.

Just as a reminder to everyone -- scratches will make an impact on the FAST fig so don't forget to do them when you are evaluating older races or using Handifast for the current card(s).
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:15 AM   #104
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HANDIFAST VERSION X

Thanks, Bro. Headhawg for the brief explanation of the program. I am also a Speed and Pace guy.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:28 AM   #105
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What makes the FAST FIGURE ?

What makes the FAST FIGURE ?
in version X, not sure what goes on in handifast
I think the difference is it throws in the kitchen sink afterwards
continuing to average, jockey%, Trainer%, PCR.

I found it to be noise and the below formula is what I have been using in the summary sheet.

I am working on removing some of the "noise" below also to make it easier to do "looking" at a past performance.

Problem is they do not all have pace figures and that is key.

Step 1:

(Calculate Speed Average)

Take the best of the last 3 speeds
add the best speed at distance

add the Distance pedigree if available
(if never ran distance use just distance pedigree)

add last race speed

add lifetime Best,
add Best speed over surface

if last race same dist and surf add it in
if 2nd to last exact add it in
if 3rd race exact add it in


Avg last 6/5/4/3/2 However many are available but not past 6 E1
do the same for LP
choose whatever is better as the Average Pace and add it in.


Step:2

(Calculate bonus points for form)

Start with the Weight carried today divided by 10

Early Speed Points>5 add 1
Early Speed Points=8 add 5

work since last add 1
either of last 2 works since race = 5f add 5
add distance of work.

fin pos last 3 is itm +5
if none -1

Won last -1
came 2nd add 2
no work and >45 days off -2

Ran last 7 days add 2
within 15 to 30 add 3

same surf as last add 1
same dist add 1

won more than a race in lifetime add 1
more than 3 starts never won -1

lower odds last 3 each time add 1
won by 3 add 1

new trainer add 2
1st time lasix add 2
blinker change add 2

sprint today and 0 ES points -1

3 improving speeeds last 3 add 1
3 declining -1

Subtract total bonus points from 60
Subtract the result from 100

Average this into the Speed Average.
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