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12-14-2021, 02:51 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,297
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If you record your daily "churn," it will really surprise you
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
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12-14-2021, 03:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Chicago in summer, New Orleans in Winter.
Posts: 56
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It is my first year and I have 746 bets and a .-0.13 negative ROI. I had a positive ROI at Saratoga and Indiana Grand but squandered away a lot of money betting too many tracks and trying for big scores (Superfectas and Trifectas). I did far better with win bets.
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12-14-2021, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Fergus,ON
Posts: 3,727
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Only yesterday I made 359 separate wagers. On a sleepy Monday.
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Was all that at Turf Paradise or multiple tracks
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Handicapping the world year round'
-Conley
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12-14-2021, 08:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 436
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I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone makes a profit betting on this sport. Yeah there are those few who get extremely lucky hitting some life changing pick fives and sixes but for most comes a negative ROI. I imagine for the amount of money a lot of people lose on horse racing they could actually own a valuable horse and pay its monthly expenses and still come out better.
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12-15-2021, 06:25 AM
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what an easy game.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 43,096
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I've been extremely fortunate this year. $0 returned / $0 bet.=0. I spend so much time (perhaps 12 hours a day) handicapping the public tote boards I don't have the time to bet
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Peace on earth, good will to all
GOD BLESS AMERICA
" I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact"
Winston Churchill
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12-15-2021, 07:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
I've been extremely fortunate this year. $0 returned / $0 bet.=0. I spend so much time (perhaps 12 hours a day) handicapping the public tote boards I don't have the time to bet
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I've matched you this year, except for the 12 hours a day category.
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12-15-2021, 09:04 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
I've been extremely fortunate this year. $0 returned / $0 bet.=0. I spend so much time (perhaps 12 hours a day) handicapping the public tote boards I don't have the time to bet
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Too many ADW's to add up
Twinspires gives you good options to get years bets...
DRFBETS.......Ridiculous....need to add month by month....
I believe it might be around the 1200 numbers....
If I lose between $500-$1000 , its an average year....
tack on Data......$2500 loss total
Last edited by geroge.burns99; 12-15-2021 at 09:10 AM.
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12-15-2021, 10:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,822
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
I've been extremely fortunate this year. $0 returned / $0 bet.=0. I spend so much time (perhaps 12 hours a day) handicapping the public tote boards I don't have the time to bet
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Did you ever think maybe at some point you'd be better off visiting soup kitchens or helping old ladies cross the street or doing pretty much anything productive rather than spending 12 hours a day researching information you'll never use?
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12-15-2021, 10:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by castaway01
Did you ever think maybe at some point you'd be better off visiting soup kitchens or helping old ladies cross the street or doing pretty much anything productive rather than spending 12 hours a day researching information you'll never use?
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...or talking about stuff on a message board that even you don't think is worth your own money to believe in?
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12-15-2021, 11:07 AM
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what an easy game.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 43,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by castaway01
Did you ever think maybe at some point you'd be better off visiting soup kitchens or helping old ladies cross the street or doing pretty much anything productive rather than spending 12 hours a day researching information you'll never use?
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With the money I save not betting, my donations get larger every year
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Peace on earth, good will to all
GOD BLESS AMERICA
" I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact"
Winston Churchill
Last edited by formula_2002; 12-15-2021 at 11:19 AM.
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12-15-2021, 11:18 AM
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what an easy game.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 43,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
...or talking about stuff on a message board that even you don't think is worth your own money to believe in?
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Hopefully, the stuff I post here gives some a clearer picture of the money part of the game.
Let me say here, that years ago I was such a bad handicapper, my bookmaker actually gave me a tip on a Frank Martin horse... It won.
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Peace on earth, good will to all
GOD BLESS AMERICA
" I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact"
Winston Churchill
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12-15-2021, 11:20 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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The 2 most arrogant guys on the board always need to put their 2 cents in...
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12-15-2021, 12:54 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
The 2 most arrogant guys on the board always need to put their 2 cents in...
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They counter the idiots...and are much needed
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12-15-2021, 02:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
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Hopefully, the stuff I post here gives some a clearer picture of the money part of the game.
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Why would anyone listen to your ideas on "the money part of the game" when even you won't back it up with your own money?
You can do whatever you want, and my guess is few, if any, pay any attention to your posts, but I think it's realistic to ask why even one person should believe in what you say when even you don't believe in it. Arguably then, it's bad if even one person listens, which means you do a disservice by posting.
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12-15-2021, 02:07 PM
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what an easy game.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 43,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Hopefully, the stuff I post here gives some a clearer picture of the money part of the game.
Let me say here, that years ago I was such a bad handicapper, my bookmaker actually gave me a tip on a Frank Martin horse... It won.
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Now that I think about that time, he must have know I was a promising "client"
He gifted me with a Tiffany tie clip with the engraving "FORMULA"
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Peace on earth, good will to all
GOD BLESS AMERICA
" I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact"
Winston Churchill
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