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10-28-2012, 09:56 PM
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I didn't think this way in the beginning either. But from what I'm hearing there really is a very strong anti-Obama sentiment out there. I actually think even many dyed-in-the-wool conservatives and Evangelical Christians will be motivated to vote against Obama.
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Box, who else would they vote for buy Romney? Wouldn't these groups always vote against the Democrat regardless of who it is?
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10-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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10-28-2012, 10:45 PM
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Box, who else would they vote for buy Romney? Wouldn't these groups always vote against the Democrat regardless of who it is?
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You're forgetting all the independents who will not be voting for BO this time around. And there are even "blue dog" Dems who will not vote for BO this time around. And I believe there will even be a small percentage of "regular" Dems who will switch their vote this time around. And I think there will even be hard-core conservatives who will bite the bullet and not sit this election out either.
In short...I don't see why the outcome of this election won't mirror the last mid-terms. Or why it won't mirror the outcome of Wisconsin recall election, etc. Obama and Co. will be spitting into a very strong headwind.
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10-28-2012, 11:23 PM
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You're forgetting all the independents who will not be voting for BO this time around ... I don't see why the outcome of this election won't mirror the last mid-terms. Or why it won't mirror the outcome of Wisconsin recall election, etc. Obama and Co. will be spitting into a very strong headwind
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Heard an Evangelical pastor on the radio last week, didn't get his name but was promoting a write-in campaign "Jesus for President". He was pretty convinced that Mormon = Satan and therefore, no true Evangelical would vote for Willard...
There is a website for Hold Your Nose And Vote Obama ... I think lots of folks realize it's a choice about the future of this good ole' USA and the Supreme Court. Many of us don't want to live under a Theocracy, or continue the 1% percent Plutocracy either. 
After THIS election I think we're home free in 2016... look at the demographics. Willard gets support from really old folks, among the under 30 crowd "Its Obama". That really hasn't changed over 4 years. Among the red state racists, etc. By 2016 there will be fewer of those around too, hopefully...
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10-29-2012, 12:43 AM
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Among the red state racists, etc. By 2016 there will be fewer of those around too, hopefully...
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What about blue state racists?
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10-29-2012, 12:54 AM
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Box, who else would they vote for buy Romney? Wouldn't these groups always vote against the Democrat regardless of who it is?
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A lot of them didn't vote in 2008. If many do now, it'll be a bump.
The real bump for RR are the Indy's. They're leaving BO in big #s per the polls. It'll make the difference in Indiana, NC, Fla for sure, and if VA, OH, WI, CO, IA, NH go red it'll be b/c of the Indy's as well.
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10-29-2012, 01:07 AM
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among the under 30 crowd "Its Obama".That really hasn't changed over 4 years.
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Really I talk with quite a few young voters that will not be voting Obama this go around. Seems the economy is a BIG issue... and they feel Romney is the man to fix it. I guess in 8 days we'll see...  .
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10-29-2012, 01:59 AM
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What about blue state racists?
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LOL, not saying that everyone who votes for Willard is a racist. 
But I think it's reasonable to conclude that MOST people who ARE racially prejudiced... (or "separatist" or "supremacist" etc.).. would vote AGAINST Barack... by definition right? Therefore MOST of the racist bigots in this country would be... Republicans 
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10-29-2012, 02:24 AM
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LOL, not saying that everyone who votes for Willard is a racist.
But I think it's reasonable to conclude that MOST people who ARE racially prejudiced... |
In my experience, MOST people who ARE racially prejudiced do not consider themselves to be racially prejudiced and therefore don't consciously make decisions that use race as a primary component of the logic used to justify the decision.
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10-29-2012, 03:01 AM
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But I think it's reasonable to conclude that MOST people who ARE racially prejudiced... (or "separatist" or "supremacist" etc.).. would vote AGAINST Barack... by definition right? Therefore MOST of the racist bigots in this country would be... Republicans |
Define racially prejudiced.
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10-29-2012, 07:54 AM
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Define racially prejudiced.
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the Democratic party always has been at the forefront of racism.
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10-29-2012, 10:52 AM
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Romney in a blowout---300+ electoral votes--repubs take over Senate
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10-29-2012, 10:55 AM
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LOL, not saying that everyone who votes for Willard is a racist.
But I think it's reasonable to conclude that MOST people who ARE racially prejudiced... (or "separatist" or "supremacist" etc.).. would vote AGAINST Barack... by definition right? Therefore MOST of the racist bigots in this country would be... Republicans |
Yeah, sure.
And the 96% of blacks who get out and vote mark an X for Obama, and race has nothing to do with it because they are not racist . 
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10-29-2012, 11:39 AM
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Interesting thread because so many here want to use the race card as if they own it. My motivations politically are more against the Bilderburg Group who buy politicians as if they were candy. Some here rail against bankers in general, I label the filth that they are and call them by name. I will always cast my vote for who is the better man, and in my mind it will never be for someone bowing to Europe or going to Egypt and saying "I am one of you".
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10-29-2012, 11:49 AM
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Heard an Evangelical pastor on the radio last week, didn't get his name but was promoting a write-in campaign "Jesus for President". He was pretty convinced that Mormon = Satan and therefore, no true Evangelical would vote for Willard...
There is a website for Hold Your Nose And Vote Obama ... I think lots of folks realize it's a choice about the future of this good ole' USA and the Supreme Court. Many of us don't want to live under a Theocracy, or continue the 1% percent Plutocracy either.
After THIS election I think we're home free in 2016... look at the demographics. Willard gets support from really old folks, among the under 30 crowd "Its Obama". That really hasn't changed over 4 years. Among the red state racists, etc. By 2016 there will be fewer of those around too, hopefully... |
This nation will never be home free until it seriously addresses the root causes to our national problems (the economy is only a symptom!). This country will continue to move Left, no matter who wins this election. If Obama wins, he'll continue to move us on the fast track. If Rom wins, he'll take us down the slow(er) track. That about sums up the difference between the two.
And why should 2016 be any different from 2012? Do you really believe that the elite Republican Establishment will nominate real conservatives? You really believe that? Look at history. Look how this country has been trending the last 100 years or so. Has it been trending to the Right or the Left? Has it been trending more toward socialism or capitalism with limited restrictions? Has the government become more invasive and controlling of the private sector or less so? You tell me.
Boxcar
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Last edited by boxcar; 10-29-2012 at 11:50 AM.
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