Logic Escaping Most

[tbwinner]

Why do the vaccinated need protection? Doesn't the vaccine provide protection against COVID-19?

If I am in a WFM position, why do I need to be vaccinated if I prefer not to be?

If the vaccine or test weekly mandate lives, and I work in a frontline position such as hospital, police, retail store, are we going to require proof of vaccination or tests from patients, customers, and citizens walking the street? Wouldn't they provide a grave danger in the workplace too?

If we were in a true extreme emergency pandemic, would hospitals be terminating or placing on leave employees who choose to forego vaccination?

If we were in a true extreme emergency pandemic and the vaccines were so effective, why would healthcare workers be refusing the shot?

If an employee has a religious or medical exemption to the vaccine, will they be required to pay for weekly testing?

If the Delta Variant is more virulent and transmissible, why hasn't "social distancing" and "masking requirements" increased?

Do you trust your employer to keep your medical records private and separate from your personnel file, as required by law?

Will further action be mandated by OSHA and Biden Administration for people to disclose other communicable diseases such as the common cold, mumps, and HIV/AIDS, which may have a similar or worse mortality rate than COVID-19?

If you have recovered from prior COVID-19 infection, why do you need the vaccine?

Does a survey of 301 doctors showing that 96% are vaccinated from the AMA really show a true picture of vaccination among doctors in the US? Is that a large enough sample size to give an accurate read?

If 70%+ have been vaccinated and numerous % of others have prior infection, hasn't herd immunity been reached or nearly reached in the US? Or do we go by the new definition of herd immunity now?

Why can we censor all questioning, other research, and other opinions off the internet and media in regards to COVID and vaccines, but we cannot censor child pornography and child sex trafficking? Where are our government's priorities?

Why wouldn't you think the world governments are trolling its citizens when the US announces vaccine mandates, then days later the UK rolls back plans for its vaccine passport?

Answers please. Or is LOGIC ESCAPING MOST?

[xtb]

Great questions!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by tbwinner

Why do the vaccinated need protection? Doesn't the vaccine provide protection against COVID-19?

If I am in a WFM position, why do I need to be vaccinated if I prefer not to be?

If the vaccine or test weekly mandate lives, and I work in a frontline position such as hospital, police, retail store, are we going to require proof of vaccination or tests from patients, customers, and citizens walking the street? Wouldn't they provide a grave danger in the workplace too?

If we were in a true extreme emergency pandemic, would hospitals be terminating or placing on leave employees who choose to forego vaccination?

If we were in a true extreme emergency pandemic and the vaccines were so effective, why would healthcare workers be refusing the shot?

If an employee has a religious or medical exemption to the vaccine, will they be required to pay for weekly testing?

If the Delta Variant is more virulent and transmissible, why hasn't "social distancing" and "masking requirements" increased?

Do you trust your employer to keep your medical records private and separate from your personnel file, as required by law?

Will further action be mandated by OSHA and Biden Administration for people to disclose other communicable diseases such as the common cold, mumps, and HIV/AIDS, which may have a similar or worse mortality rate than COVID-19?

If you have recovered from prior COVID-19 infection, why do you need the vaccine?

Does a survey of 301 doctors showing that 96% are vaccinated from the AMA really show a true picture of vaccination among doctors in the US? Is that a large enough sample size to give an accurate read?

If 70%+ have been vaccinated and numerous % of others have prior infection, hasn't herd immunity been reached or nearly reached in the US? Or do we go by the new definition of herd immunity now?

Why can we censor all questioning, other research, and other opinions off the internet and media in regards to COVID and vaccines, but we cannot censor child pornography and child sex trafficking? Where are our government's priorities?

Why wouldn't you think the world governments are trolling its citizens when the US announces vaccine mandates, then days later the UK rolls back plans for its vaccine passport?

Answers please. Or is LOGIC ESCAPING MOST?

Liberalism is a mental disease! You expect logical, coherent answers out of Mosty? Shirely U. Jest. A bag of rocks can outthink Mosty on his best day and on their worst day.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Liberalism is a mental disease! You expect logical, coherent answers out of Mosty? Shirely U. Jest. A bag of rocks can outthink Mosty on his best day and on their worst day.

Doesn't "most" have another meaning? I doubt that the original poster was referring strictly to Mostpost.

[Inner Dirt]

If you ignore the biased BS and just look at the numbers it is pretty obvious the vaccine's best selling point is that it helps lessen the damage the virus can do if you catch it. New cases are hitting all time highs, higher than when no one was vaccinated, what does that tell you? The jabs aren't doing much to prevent getting infected. I have personally known 3 people that got Covid-19, two of the 3 already were fully vaccinated. Pretty sure if I did not get vaccinated I would be sicker than I am, due to having multiple pre-existing conditions. I have just been dragging ass going on 24 days. I would say I am stuck on having 1/3 of my normal energy.

[davew]

COME ON MAN, this is a special vaccine


it does not protect you from catching the virus
it does not keep you from spreading the virus
many places half the nurses refuse to get vaccinated, opting to quit instead

[tbwinner]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

If you ignore the biased BS and just look at the numbers it is pretty obvious the vaccine's best selling point is that it helps lessen the damage the virus can do if you catch it. New cases are hitting all time highs, higher than when no one was vaccinated, what does that tell you? The jabs aren't doing much to prevent getting infected. I have personally known 3 people that got Covid-19, two of the 3 already were fully vaccinated. Pretty sure if I did not get vaccinated I would be sicker than I am, due to having multiple pre-existing conditions. I have just been dragging ass going on 24 days. I would say I am stuck on having 1/3 of my normal energy.

I never said the vaccine was terrible and shouldn't ever be considered.

My issue is how they are going about the vaccine with the mandates and illogical thought.

They are snarling at people who question them, even though they have "moved the goalposts" many times.

I have more questions,

Why did Joe Biden say you won't catch Covid when you take these vaccines? Surely the $cience said then that wasn't the case?

[tbwinner]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Doesn't "most" have another meaning? I doubt that the original poster was referring strictly to Mostpost.

Bingo. But I knew my snide wording would poke some people.

[classhandicapper]

The authorities think we are all idiots. They think it's OK to spin and lie to us to get us to do what they think is in our best interests because we are incapable of high level thought. They don't care that every person has a different risk profile, different priorities, a different set of values etc.. They don't care that not all extremely educated competent scientists and doctors agree with them.

They will block anyone that disagrees with their agenda and force it on everyone.

It's not even a matter of whether they are right or wrong in any particular case. Their own arrogance doesn't allow them to even consider the possibility they are wrong or there may be another good way of doing things. They don't see the evil in taking away the freedom of people. They don't see the evil in their own approach. They are totalitarians.

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

They will block anyone that disagrees with their agenda and force it on everyone.

THIS ^^^^^

This is the deal breaker for me.

This is what will DESTROY America.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Liberalism is a mental disease! You expect logical, coherent answers out of Mosty? Shirely U. Jest. A bag of rocks can outthink Mosty on his best day and on their worst day.

Careful, boxcar. You'll get put on mostpost's list along with ReplayRandall and myself for calling him dumb.

Of course, he conveniently forgets he does the same...and worse.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The authorities think we are all idiots. They think it's OK to spin and lie to us to get us to do what they think is in our best interests because we are incapable of high level thought. They don't care that every person has a different risk profile, different priorities, a different set of values etc.. They don't care that not all extremely educated competent scientists and doctors agree with them.

They will block anyone that disagrees with their agenda and force it on everyone.

It's not even a matter of whether they are right or wrong in any particular case. Their own arrogance doesn't allow them to even consider the possibility they are wrong or there may be another good way of doing things. They don't see the evil in taking away the freedom of people. They don't see the evil in their own approach. They are totalitarians.

Exactly, classhandicapper.

[tbwinner]

Questions Unanswered, Round Two

With 9+ million people dying of hunger or poor nutrition every year, why hasn't world governments focused on helping that segment of population as they seemingly have towards the 4.5 million that have died of COVID in 20 months?

Why isn't anyone talking about the hospital caught on video talking about pumping up COVID cases to solely scare the unvaccinated/naturally immune?

Why isn't anyone talking about the Israeli Ministry of Health saying there is "no medical or epidemiological justification for the Covid passport, it is only intended to pressure the unvaccinated to vaccinate"?

Why did people on the Met Gala catwalk not have to wear masks but the workers and attendants did?

How much is the government reimbursing pharmacies for a COVID-19 vaccine shot? Is the number different for a J&J vs. moderna vs. Pfizer?

Why is there no approval of the Novavax vaccine?

Why is no one talking about the millions of COVID-19 Moderna vaccines that Japan has rejected due to contamination?

Did the flu really disappear because of MASKING? Were flu cases mismarked as COVID, and/or vice versa?

Why are COVID vaccines the only product in the world whose failure is blamed one those who did NOT partake in them?

Why does the government all of a sudden show interest in people dying that are against their general agenda?

Is US data on unvaccinated versus vaccinated cases of COVID really reliable knowing that the CDC stopped tracking cases in vaccinated in or around April of this year?

Why don't people recognize President Biden's saying "our patience is wearing thin" is eerily similar to Adolf Hitler's 1938 speech where he said "my patience is now at an end"?

Harvey Weinsten and Joe Biden both made statements equivalent to "You must put this thing in your body or lose your job," why is President Biden still trustworthy as a leader?

Again, why are hospitals advertising $10K+ sign-on bonuses and huge 3x/4x hourly pay rates for nurses when they are simultaneously letting go or placing on leave unvaccinated staff?

Why don't people realize what is happening in certain parts of Australia, where they cannot move more than 5KM beyond their home without passing checkpoints, is also about to begin happening here?

Do you believe every comment on the Internet to be made by a human being, or recognize that up to 80-90% of pro-government/pro-COVID comments could be made by bots?

What timeframe does the "99% of those who die from COVID-19 are unvaccinated" stat start and end from?

Why did the BBC report that WTC Tower 7 collapsed while live video showed it was still erect on 9/11/01? (bonus question)

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by tbwinner

Questions Unanswered, Round Two

With 9+ million people dying of hunger or poor nutrition every year, why hasn't world governments focused on helping that segment of population as they seemingly have towards the 4.5 million that have died of COVID in 20 months?

Why isn't anyone talking about the hospital caught on video talking about pumping up COVID cases to solely scare the unvaccinated/naturally immune?

Why isn't anyone talking about the Israeli Ministry of Health saying there is "no medical or epidemiological justification for the Covid passport, it is only intended to pressure the unvaccinated to vaccinate"?

Why did people on the Met Gala catwalk not have to wear masks but the workers and attendants did?

How much is the government reimbursing pharmacies for a COVID-19 vaccine shot? Is the number different for a J&J vs. moderna vs. Pfizer?

Why is there no approval of the Novavax vaccine?

Why is no one talking about the millions of COVID-19 Moderna vaccines that Japan has rejected due to contamination?

Did the flu really disappear because of MASKING? Were flu cases mismarked as COVID, and/or vice versa?

Why are COVID vaccines the only product in the world whose failure is blamed one those who did NOT partake in them?

Why does the government all of a sudden show interest in people dying that are against their general agenda?

Is US data on unvaccinated versus vaccinated cases of COVID really reliable knowing that the CDC stopped tracking cases in vaccinated in or around April of this year?

Why don't people recognize President Biden's saying "our patience is wearing thin" is eerily similar to Adolf Hitler's 1938 speech where he said "my patience is now at an end"?

Harvey Weinsten and Joe Biden both made statements equivalent to "You must put this thing in your body or lose your job," why is President Biden still trustworthy as a leader?

Again, why are hospitals advertising $10K+ sign-on bonuses and huge 3x/4x hourly pay rates for nurses when they are simultaneously letting go or placing on leave unvaccinated staff?

Why don't people realize what is happening in certain parts of Australia, where they cannot move more than 5KM beyond their home without passing checkpoints, is also about to begin happening here?

Do you believe every comment on the Internet to be made by a human being, or recognize that up to 80-90% of pro-government/pro-COVID comments could be made by bots?

What timeframe does the "99% of those who die from COVID-19 are unvaccinated" stat start and end from?

Why did the BBC report that WTC Tower 7 collapsed while live video showed it was still erect on 9/11/01? (bonus question)

Once again, tbwinner...GREAT questions.

[tbwinner]

No one here or elsewhere is answering my questions. So it makes me think of even more.

A scare article came out that 1/500 Americans have died of COVID, so that means 99.8% live right? What portion of those 1/500 were over 65, had pre-existing conditions, and/or died less than 14 days of being vaccinated?

Why is no one in the US denouncing what is going on in Australia right now?

How can the unvaccinated be causing the variants when all variants Alpha to Delta thru Mu were detected in February or before, prior to mass vaccination efforts?

Just today Pfizer recalled all lots of its popular quit-smoking drug CHANTIX, due to carcinogens, and we still trust them not to make the same errors and malpractice in their vaccines?