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Old 12-15-2021, 02:39 PM   #31
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Why would anyone listen to your ideas on "the money part of the game" when even you won't back it up with your own money?

You can do whatever you want, and my guess is few, if any, pay any attention to your posts, but I think it's realistic to ask why even one person should believe in what you say when even you don't believe in it. Arguably then, it's bad if even one person listens, which means you do a disservice by posting.
But I do believe in what I do, and if and when I achieve a postive ROI,
I will hire a programer that will furnish a program that interigates the wps and exacta boards, runs the data through my formulas and place optimal bets on a 24/7 basis.
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Additionally, I enjoy the experiment of handicapping the handicappers.
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Old 12-15-2021, 08:36 PM   #32
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I've been extremely fortunate this year. $0 returned / $0 bet.=0. I spend so much time (perhaps 12 hours a day) handicapping the public tote boards I don't have the time to bet
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Old 12-15-2021, 09:36 PM   #33
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After reading all these posts I was curious on my bets. I made 886 bets for $1,886. Return was $1,884.40, so loss $1.60 for the year so far. Have to find a $4.00 show horse so I can be positive for the year.
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Old 12-15-2021, 10:01 PM   #34
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16,739 US horse races so far this year. Number of bets unknown but at a guess I probably average about 10 per race.
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Old 12-16-2021, 11:26 AM   #35
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Why would anyone listen to your ideas on "the money part of the game" when even you won't back it up with your own money?

You can do whatever you want, and my guess is few, if any, pay any attention to your posts, but I think it's realistic to ask why even one person should believe in what you say when even you don't believe in it. Arguably then, it's bad if even one person listens, which means you do a disservice by posting.
Every horse racing board needs their Prof. Irwin Coreys and Brother Theodores, don't they?
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Old 12-16-2021, 11:32 AM   #36
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Has anyone mentioned that multi horse Pick whatevers account for most of the wagers?
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Has anyone mentioned that multi horse Pick whatevers account for most of the wagers?
If I could contribute to a group, that's all I would play
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Old 12-18-2021, 07:11 AM   #38
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Why would anyone listen to your ideas on "the money part of the game" when even you won't back it up with your own money?

You can do whatever you want, and my guess is few, if any, pay any attention to your posts, but I think it's realistic to ask why even one person should believe in what you say when even you don't believe in it. Arguably then, it's bad if even one person listens, which means you do a disservice by posting.
Why? Because I post the results of a simple question, what did I win, compared to what I expected to win. Join in
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Much respect.
Don't you work for an organization IN the game? Why would you say "much respect" to someone who won't bet because he thinks your game is unwinnable? Makes absolutely no sense.
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Don't you work for an organization IN the game? Why would you say "much respect" to someone who won't bet because he thinks your game is unwinnable? Makes absolutely no sense.
Oh I think it may be winnable. Until I can prove it, i'll keep working on it.

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They counter the idiots...and are much needed
Sincerely, thanks for that.

I'll go back to being arrogant tomorrow.
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Old 12-18-2021, 06:08 PM   #42
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Don't you work for an organization IN the game? Why would you say "much respect" to someone who won't bet because he thinks your game is unwinnable? Makes absolutely no sense.

Respect to the hours put in. Nothing else.
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Old 12-19-2021, 11:44 AM   #43
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if capable of focusing that OCD-like passion on 'your' strategy grunt-work for 8-12 hours a day ...

can be a pretty good teammate, like "Ollie" in "Wall Street"
"Ollie" was at the top of his class in Cornell University, he met Gordon Gekko while serving an internship w/ Goldman Sachs.


Obviously, not everyone is going to be a fit.

I think Benter and what's his name had an office grunt-work guy who worked basically on cash and nose powder...

Others are too far gone, on their own path, and while they would not fit with a team, they are content to live in their own world
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Oh I think it may be winnable. Until I can prove it, i'll keep working on it.

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If someone read about exercise for 20 years yet never picked up a weight or entered a gym, or read about fishing for 20 years but never picked up a rod or caught a fish (and in fact told everyone it was impossible to catch a fish), people would say they were crazy. Yet you do the same with horse racing, and when I point that out I'm told I'm arrogant, and you get told by people in the industry "much respect" for saying their game is worthless.

Note that I don't for one second doubt your sincerity or think you're making up any of the information you give. I just think it's a sad waste of time.
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Old 12-19-2021, 12:39 PM   #45
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When I was in my teens I read a series of science fiction books by John Norman.

Going from memory, one the more memorable quotes from those books went something like this:

"Do not ask how man should live, but instead proceed to do so."

For me, across all ADW accounts:

Just over 13,900 bets ytd for 2021.

Looking at scaling that up a bit for 2022.



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