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Old 11-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #16
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Boseman area of Montana is nice, easy to fall in love with. Winters are sometime difficult because of the mountain ranges and blowing snow. It takes some adjustment and you will definitely want a 4 wheel drive.

South Dakota is nice and open but I prefered the Eastern side of it

Idaho is really nice. You should really wait till spring and drive from Boseman thru Idaho and down to Denver. DO NOT FORGET YOUR CAMERA!!!

Wyoming, I didn't care for. But that is just me. Lots of people like it and it is pretty during the summer. But it was really open and it seems to me it cost more. Been about 15 years since I was out therre

I liked Colorado. There is much to do and plenty of parks and etc and it was reasonable for rents and etc. People were great!

Take some notes and check out prices and give yourself at least 3 weeks to travel. When I was out there we saw some Mountain sheep and a bear. It was fantastic.

DON'T FORGET YOUR CAMERA, LENSES AND A BUNCH OF DISKS!!!

have fun and enjoy!
I spent two weeks in MT, ID, WY, ND an SD this summer and there was not a bad spot in the 3,000 miles I traveled. Eastern Idaho, around Rexburg, where you can see the west side of the Tetons, is incredible. And it's only a short drive to Yellowstone NP, the most beautiful place in the US. If you like fly fishing, there is no better place than that area. Whitefish MT, near Glacier National Park, is a wonderful town, and the lake there is gorgeous. I love Wyoming, even the open flat parts of it, but the winters are long and cold. Western South Dakota is special too. When it comes time for me to quit the daily grind, I will make my move West.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:44 PM   #17
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speaking of fly fishing,...When I was there we went to the Angel Lake area. The water is sooooooooooo clear that looks are deceiving.

Now,...I know better, but what I thought was a foot turn out to be about 4 feet!

You should have seen me floundering around. But there is nothing like pan sized trout fried over an open flame.

ahhhhh the memories

Wyoming has a lot of abandoned mining towns. Some of those streams are loaded. Went up to the Torington area. Burlington Northern still takes "fines" from that area for their tracks. We caught 8 nice ones, about a pound each, on ultra lights. Felt like a whale..Moby Dick himself.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:27 PM   #18
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My son, cj, who I am proud of (23 years in the USAF) beyond anything anyone here could imagine was stationed in Wyoming (Cheyenne) and I found the city to be an excellent place to finish out one's life. Everyone was so courteous that I as an east coast guy was surprised by the laid back kindness of the folks I came in contact with.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:41 PM   #19
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:46 PM   #20
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Seriously. This state no longer even remotely represents me or many others.


Every ballot initiative passed, including:

Gay marriage is now permitted

In state tuition at the Univ. of Maryland and it's satellites for illegals

Another casino near DC and a future one in the city while two of the three existing casinos are losing money. The area where the downtown casino is to be built will turn into a nightmare of criminal activity.

Gerrymandering a district in Western Md. to defeat one of two Republican representatives in DC. The previous district was chopped to hell.

The governor proclaimed yesterday that he is pushing to make the referendum process even tougher than it already is to keep issues like the above from making their way onto the ballot.

Recently, the state, by mandate, raised all alcohol sales to be taxed at a rate of 9%. This is an increase of 3% over the sales tax of 6%.

A 2 year car registration costs $180

Toll road fees up 100 %

State property tax raised even while home values declined.

The only thing that compels me to stay is the fact that my 90 year old mom is still with us. If she passes on before me, I have some serious thinking to do.

Any serious suggestions on affordable, conservative, relatively safe areas to relocate ?

Blue states are out.
Why would gay marriage be any factor in whether you leave or not?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:59 PM   #21
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Nebraska - A little more going on in the Omaha metro area than in S. Dakota. The WX is not as severe as SD either. Low unemployment, good people - but you could say the same thing about the entire plain state region.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:13 PM   #22
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Why would gay marriage be any factor in whether you leave or not?
Maybe he is getting vexed the way Lot was.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:31 PM   #23
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Maybe he is getting vexed the way Lot was.

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Dunno about D,

but as far as that issue and smoking weed is concerned, the Rubicon was crossed on Tuesday.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:39 PM   #24
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Why would gay marriage be any factor in whether you leave or not?
Because he has his core values and refuses to compromise. It should be admired today. He has a core set of morals. Whether they be Religious based or whatever. Maryland makes a huge statement about the future by being the only state to approve Gay marriage by vote. Some people see that as a reason to leave. So be it.

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Oklahoma or North Texas. Near the kids, grand kids and me.

Remember, no online betting in Texas. It sucks.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:43 PM   #25
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Why would gay marriage be any factor in whether you leave or not?
I promised I would only bite at your shit but once...

This is the mature way to handle it, the way it was intended. The man isn't screaming for the federal government to change to adopt to his views, whether you agree with them or not. He has realized that his ideals differ from what the citizens in his state are gravitating towards and is instead seeking out a state that more closely resembles his ideals. That's how it is supposed to work in this country. Just think of all the lives that could have been saved if people had stopped screaming about how they needed Obamacare or would die tomorrow and instead just got in the @#%ing car and drove to Massachussetts.
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'Dad', I wish I could offer up Pennsylvania as a suggestion for you but too many fat slobs from New Jersey, armed with their equally fat and protected NJ state pensions, have moved en masse to my beloved and bucolic Bucks County these past 20 years or so.

These very annoying people never ever admit that the liberal policies of the Democrat Party caused them to run out of there in the first place. Of course, these idiots also never learn and still vote Democratic today.

So guess what? Pennsylvania is now a blue (and soon to be hopeless) Keystone state.
Reckless, I've got good news for you. Even though I'm kind of fat, I'm stayin' put. Just promise me you won't go 60 mph in the left lane of NJ Turnpike like every other PA driver on that road.

CJ's Dad, I can only suggest picking an area with a racetrack.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:09 AM   #27
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... Even though I'm kind of fat, I'm stayin' put.
Are you really Chris Christie, NJ?[/B]

He's also kinda fat and since his recent spectacle w/Obama he's killed his future as a serious person, so he's stayin' put too.
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That was pretty clever.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:53 AM   #29
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'Dad', I wish I could offer up Pennsylvania as a suggestion for you but too many fat slobs from New Jersey, armed with their equally fat and protected NJ state pensions, have moved en masse to my beloved and bucolic Bucks County these past 20 years or so.

These very annoying people never ever admit that the liberal policies of the Democrat Party caused them to run out of there in the first place. Of course, these idiots also never learn and still vote Democratic today.

So guess what? Pennsylvania is now a blue (and soon to be hopeless) Keystone state.

I believe a similar scenario is playing out in Virginia as well from what I could imagine, limiting that option as well.

I understand your angst and just know we're with you all the way.
I've lived in NY and PA and PA is much better, and we did elect Corbett and Toomey, both Republicans and Toomey is very conservative. New York of course is tax and spend mess.
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before this past election, one of the things that almost everyone was saying was " i don't know anyone that is voting for the president"! we all know how the election has turned out. now following this election we are hearing those same people that didn't know what was going on in front of their own 2 eyes predict how bad things are going to be going forward. i always have a saying that whatever you think about, you bring about, and whatever you focus on grows.
my suggestion would be to find something good, and focus on it instead of being negative on yourself.
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