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ghostyapper · 08-20-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost

Rachel Alexamdra will have NO problem with 10 furlongs against colts. People were questioning Secretariat's ability to get a mile and a quarter before the 1973 Kentucky Derby. We saw how that turned out.

Wow great point. Secretariat could get 10 furlongs so that automatically means rachel can get it. I guess she could have ran 12 furlongs in 2.24 as well.

Hanover1 · 08-20-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostyapper

Wow great point. Secretariat could get 10 furlongs so that automatically means rachel can get it. I guess she could have ran 12 furlongs in 2.24 as well.

There are no automatics in this game. Never saw one. However she still has a few more things to do to be ranked up there with the top 3 of all time, but she makes a good case for moving on up that way. She is freakish in nature, and could very well uncork a monster effort, the likes we have not seen in awhile. That is the nature of many good ones. Setting stake records and such have already been accomplished, there is more........

depalma113 · 08-20-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnielu

That's a big surprise, gotta find something where she can't lose.

jdl

Yeah, because she has been handled with kid gloves up until now.

bisket · 08-20-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold@TFT

Yep, Jess never risks losing. He knew that the beasts in the Preakness and Haskell had no chance of beating her so that's why he sent her in those races too. If you reread my post I said that the risk of losing was on Kensei's end of the bargain if she runs. Why risk him losing a prestigious race like the Travers to a girl when she has already beaten up on the best that have come to her so far? Kensei, G-I at 10F = big dollars at the stud farm. Rachel - been there, done that, bring on something new. She will meet up with Quality Road some day. It just doesn't have to be the 29th. Unless of course he retires to stud before the Donn next winter.

if i wanted to meet up with quality road at 1 1/4 mile this would probably be her best chance. coming into a classic race off a 6 1/2 fur prep is a tall order. if she doesn't take this opportunity it would make me wonder if they really think she could beat him.

Java Gold@TFT · 08-20-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostyapper

If I were that confident in rachel getting the distance I would want her to prove it on the track not duck the race with some lame excuse about how she already proved this or that.

This comes from the guy who is already making excuses for MTB's eventual loss in the Travers becasue he had nearly meaningless surgery this week but Woolley says he's 100% back to normal.

Lame excuses are the staple of life for MTB fans. Bad ride, bad ride, wrong track, wrong distance, too much pace up front, moved too soon, would have won if the race distance was another 100 yards... Someone call Dr. Carter, he needs to produce some more liver pills to keep up with the excuses.

ghostyapper · 08-20-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold@TFT

This comes from the guy who is already making excuses for MTB's eventual loss in the Travers becasue he had nearly meaningless surgery this week but Woolley says he's 100% back to normal.

Lame excuses are the staple of life for MTB fans. Bad ride, bad ride, wrong track, wrong distance, too much pace up front, moved too soon, would have won if the race distance was another 100 yards... Someone call Dr. Carter, he needs to produce some more liver pills to keep up with the excuses.

and lame excuses on why rachel shouldn't race here or there are the staple of rachel fans. Nothing left to prove at 10 furlongs for a horse who has yet to run at 10 furlongs. Amazing!!!

Hanover1 · 08-20-2009, 08:26 PM

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and lame excuses on why rachel shouldn't race here or there are the staple of rachel fans. Nothing left to prove at 10 furlongs for a horse who has yet to run at 10 furlongs. Amazing!!!

Your wonder horse may not even start, yet Wooley claims hes 100%. Explain that yapper.........As far as Rachel goes, you wouldnt know a great filly if she walked right by you......

Looking at your threads, you just like to dis-agree to attract company it seems. Always on the attack...yet lacking in factual information from a horsemans perspective. Frustrated bettor who wishes he was a trainer perhaps??

PaceAdvantage · 08-20-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanover1

Perhaps the secretive manner in wich she is being brought along at this time involves what we all are aware of. Jessies girl is vulnerable at 10f against colts.

I laughed.

PaceAdvantage · 08-20-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostyapper

It is hilarious how the rachel crowd can talk out both sides of their mouth. On the one hand they have no doubt she can get 10 furlongs or further. On the other hand very time a race further than 9 furlongs comes up they want her to pass on it for a 9 furlong race because "she has nothing left to prove".

Actually, what's hilarious is how the rachel detractors (of which I was one...sort of...after her oaks) have lost their bets each and every time...yet still have no problem coming up with newer and more hilarious theories on why she sucks.

What's next? Oh wait, I know...

If she doesn't go up to Woodbine on a cold fall day and dominate on the turf whilst running past the toteboard like a freight train with smoke coming out of her nostrils...well then...she's the worst filly of all time...end of story!

Hanover1 · 08-20-2009, 08:46 PM

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I laughed.

And I suppose you have the answer why she has not hooked the colts at 10f yet?? (thought so....) IMO if she is allowed to mature as 4yr old and is sound, she will run all day and no-one will catch her,no-one.......

ghostyapper · 08-20-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanover1

Your wonder horse may not even start, yet Wooley claims hes 100%. Explain that yapper.........As far as Rachel goes, you wouldnt know a great filly if she walked right by you......

Looking at your threads, you just like to dis-agree to attract company it seems. Always on the attack...yet lacking in factual information from a horsemans perspective. Frustrated bettor who wishes he was a trainer perhaps??

Please save the "insider" attitude you think you have. That attitude already made you look like a fool when you claimed in another thread that the bigger the horse the longer they can run. I think only kids have this opinion.

And in 1 thread you claim the surgery is nothing and its only an excuse in another thread you claim he should scratch because it can affect his breathing at any time

ghostyapper · 08-20-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Actually, what's hilarious is how the rachel detractors (of which I was one...sort of...after her oaks) have lost their bets each and every time...yet still have no problem coming up with newer and more hilarious theories on why she sucks.

What's next? Oh wait, I know...

If she doesn't go up to Woodbine on a cold fall day and dominate on the turf whilst running past the toteboard like a freight train with smoke coming out of her nostrils...well then...she's the worst filly of all time...end of story!

Here we go with your exaggerations. No one is saying she is not great or shouldn't be the favorite in any race she runs in but I think it's ridiculous when people claim she has nothing left to prove when it comes to beating the colts in the travers. The top one's she's never faced and she still has not run in a 10 furlong race. Coincidentally the longest race of her career also happened to be her narrowest margin of defeat.

bisket · 08-20-2009, 09:08 PM

being bigger certainly helps a horse going longer, but its not the be all. that little sucker coming like a freight train at the end always has a place in a route race. i certainly has worked for better talk now for years.

Tee · 08-20-2009, 09:08 PM

How many 10 furlong races against the colts has she missed?

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Originally Posted by Hanover1

And I suppose you have the answer why she has not hooked the colts at 10f yet??

Hanover1 · 08-20-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostyapper

Please save the "insider" attitude you think you have. That attitude already made you look like a fool when you claimed in another thread that the bigger the horse the longer they can run. I think only kids have this opinion.

And in 1 thread you claim the surgery is nothing and its only an excuse in another thread you claim he should scratch because it can affect his breathing at any time

I expected nothing less from you-a shallow response. You only consider your opinion and not what others have to say-its not just me, you do it to others a well. Sarcasm and negative posts show little class. A sore throat is nothing, yet children stay home from school as result, yet you surely cant see the analogy. Nowhere did I state that "the bigger a horse, the longer they run". You have yet again twisted my comments with switching of words and omissions to suit your agenda-for that reason alone my friend-we sir, are finished. Enjoy your lonely life. Its not an attitude, its a life-a life you know very little about except thru a newspaper and standing in line at the $2.00 window. I LIVED on the track for many years-and you???????