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11-12-2017, 11:51 AM
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i am surprised that there hasn't been a mention of Mark "the Mountainman" Paterson. the man absolutely knows his stuff around West Virginia and Ohio racing. he does not rely on pace or sheet numbers completely in his analysis. he understands when real good numbers on a horse don't mean that much sometimes. his show is a nuts and bolts show without a high cost production, but there is plenty to be gained by listening to him even if you don't agree with his picks. lately, he has been hot as a firecracker and is probably due to cool down!
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11-13-2017, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
Don't believe me? Look at the crap posted by Mike Pizzola on the Breeders Cup.
He got close on one race (by mistake?) but hear me out, your opinion counts and you better have one.
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Is this another guy that people look to in order to "toss" horses?
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11-13-2017, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Where do you get Rick Lee's analysis? thanks
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If at Lone Star Park, they put out a page of his picks. But during the Oaklawn meet, his picks/analysis are in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
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11-13-2017, 11:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hogoffate
If at Lone Star Park, they put out a page of his picks. But during the Oaklawn meet, his picks/analysis are in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
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I will have to buy a paper when I head down to Oaklawn in January-weather permitting. thanks again
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11-14-2017, 12:50 AM
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The public.
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11-14-2017, 06:45 AM
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Chris Larney!!
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11-14-2017, 07:02 PM
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Totally agree. It's called insurance.
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11-14-2017, 09:34 PM
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He did love Ascend in this year's Woodford Reserve on Belmont Stakes Day. The $57.00 win payoff got me a $1900 Pick3, so I'm a bit forgiving. Glad I didn't throw him out!
Mike
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11-14-2017, 09:35 PM
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The post above refers to the Michael Pizzola part of this thread!
Mike
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11-14-2017, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marksinger
Chris Larney!!
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I believe that his name is actually Chris Larmey. I agree, good handicapper. Washington guy.
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11-18-2017, 09:49 AM
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By far Kevin Cox (Brooklyn Cowboy)
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11-18-2017, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dnlgfnk
The public.
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I always toss the publics choice
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11-19-2017, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
I always toss the publics choice
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That's why they're my favorite.
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11-26-2017, 03:06 AM
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Dave Litfins book (expert handicapping)was the biggest handicapping influence on me, the chapters regarding turf racing for younger horses & record keeping were eye openers for me
In the end, once you have your shit together, if you're competent & betting serious cash, listen to no one else.
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01-01-2021, 11:47 AM
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bumpin' it
One of my favorites (I think I stated this earlier), Mike Beer, has been cold for a few years, at least whenever I look. Just wondering if anyone knows roughly
How old are Ilman and Beer? They've been doing this a long time, but something tells me that if you have been successful enough to stick around as long as they have, you probably started in your early 20s or did work for others at 18+.
For that matter, how does one become a "DRF handicapper"? I think these less commonly asked questions have a cool back story, usually.
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