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04-05-2018, 10:11 AM
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#106
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Kind of a mystery, isn't it?  |
Not really...not when one is able to see clearly what has been allowed to go on ever since Dutrow got the big boot.
It's a ****ing joke...hypocritical at its core.
Patently unfair and ridiculous in the face of what has gone on BEFORE and SINCE his ouster.
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04-05-2018, 11:02 AM
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#107
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Not really...not when one is able to see clearly what has been allowed to go on ever since Dutrow got the big boot.
It's a ****ing joke...hypocritical at its core.
Patently unfair and ridiculous in the face of what has gone on BEFORE and SINCE his ouster.
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I'd counter by saying I don't see much of the stuff I think you are talking about going on in NYRA racing, which is where Dutrow got in trouble.
I know, I know, people think Persuad was dirty this past weekend. I hope NYRA is looking into it. Overall I think they do better than the rest of the tracks.
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04-05-2018, 12:28 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 854
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Originally Posted by Niko
I liked Dutrow because he told it like it was, basically admitted that trainers would do anything to win once they got a horse..... as my daughter says so to me so often....duhh.
What I find interesting is that people want to clean up the sport but they want to bring Dutrow back? I'd like to get some more insight into the reasoning behind that
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The preconceived notion that all trainers or horsemen are alike is pathetic and ignorant. In today's world, stereotyping is frowned upon when it comes to almost anything. Seems as though trainers and horsemen fall into the almost anything category.
Rick nor any other trainer speaks for me. Anyone that tries to can kiss my rear end. I always have and always will speak for myself.
I was asked within my first week here to call patrons of the track, customers and not bettors or gamblers. Seems as though that was offensive to some. So I try very hard to respect that wish.
Shame it's not a two way street.
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04-06-2018, 12:53 PM
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#109
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Not really...not when one is able to see clearly what has been allowed to go on ever since Dutrow got the big boot.
It's a ****ing joke...hypocritical at its core.
Patently unfair and ridiculous in the face of what has gone on BEFORE and SINCE his ouster.
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Fairness in racing, rarely if at all ever happens.
look at the takeout rates. If things were fair, everyone would be on the same takeout rate.
look at DQs, if things were fair, one standard would be used for all races, and we all know that doesnt happen.
Dutrow gets tossed for multiple suspensions yet Asmussen is headed to the hall of fame.
Allan
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03-11-2020, 06:34 AM
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#110
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Clueless. Unless by juicer, you mean using legal medications.
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No, pure 100% cheating juice. SGF-1000.
Just toss the lot of the juicers.
Allan
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03-11-2020, 06:46 AM
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#111
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
No, pure 100% cheating juice. SGF-1000.
Just toss the lot of the juicers.
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Yeah? Dutrow was using SGF-1000?
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03-11-2020, 09:15 AM
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#112
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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If not that then other things that are illegal.
I am with Tom (racing makes strangebedfellows)
Toss the juicers.
Allan
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03-11-2020, 10:03 AM
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#113
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by cj
I'd counter by saying I don't see much of the stuff I think you are talking about going on in NYRA racing, which is where Dutrow got in trouble.
I know, I know, people think Persuad was dirty this past weekend. I hope NYRA is looking into it. Overall I think they do better than the rest of the tracks.
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There was a time Jason Servis stopped running in New York, or at least very, very rarely. Then he came back. Now we know why.
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03-11-2020, 10:22 AM
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#114
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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We need to come up with a new name for some of these trainers that are vet dependent or barn managers.
Years ago at Sportsman's Park they would put the assistant's name in the program, this gave you a clue to who was actually doing the work for several trainers that had previously worked as a mutual clerk, car sales man, door manager at a strip club before they received their trainer's license!
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03-11-2020, 11:17 AM
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#115
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Remember, WASH your HANDS.
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03-11-2020, 11:22 AM
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#116
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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10 years seems kind of light today.
So much for letting this guy go early - 0 benefit to the game to do so. In fact, Bad news for the game to do so.
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03-11-2020, 11:23 AM
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#117
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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People do have short memories...
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03-11-2020, 11:28 AM
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#118
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Originally Posted by cj
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When the fans response to these indictments is "bring Dutrow back" I can see why a lot of racing entities don't seem to be that interested in keeping the fans. What made you sick will not make you better.
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03-11-2020, 11:51 AM
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Location: Flint Hills
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If you're gonna clean the barn you don't shovel the crap back in.
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03-11-2020, 12:15 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Better to harm one lone person than tens of thousands of racing customers. Bub by, babby.
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