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10-05-2012, 02:38 PM
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There are two groups who plow tons of money into Texas politics to block gambling. The first is the religious groups, the second are the casinos just across the border. The most influential group is the tribe that owns Winstar. They also own Lonestar Park now. They do not want ADW betting in Texas. Wonder why all of a sudden Texas cracked down on ADWs? Our governor ran for President. He got a small fortune in donations from the Chickasaw. The Chickasaw own Winstar Casino (the second largest in the world, in the middle of nowhere, but just on the other side of the Texas border) and Lonestar Park. They have bought the best governor money can buy in Rick Perry.
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10-13-2012, 11:59 AM
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"shut down Texas Accounts"
I am listening to the CSR's around me. If someone from Texas calls in, the have to shut down their accounts. :-( Stupid for sure. But we are not going out and pulling all accts from Texas to shut them down (yet). That might change.
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10-13-2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wagergirl
I am listening to the CSR's around me. If someone from Texas calls in, the have to shut down their accounts. :-( Stupid for sure. But we are not going out and pulling all accts from Texas to shut them down (yet). That might change.
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Yeah, my 2 ADWs are taking that approach. As long as you were already a member, from Texas, and you just mind your own business, you can keep on betting. But, no new Texas members are being accepted by either of them.
So, I'm keeping a very low profile, other than to praise their service, of course! 
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10-13-2012, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Being new to North Texas, this "wanna be" Texan wishes them luck.
I'm 35 miles from Lonestar. Planning to check it out soon
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Lone Star is a very nice venue, but like many other tracks, they try to milk you with parking fees, entrance fees, programs, food and drink, individual TV consoles in the simulcast building, takeout, etc., etc..
I doubt I will ever visit any Texas track again. If I can't bet online, I'll either leave the state, or, I'll just quit playing the races and play more golf. It's that simple.
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10-13-2012, 06:22 PM
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Certainly sounds to me like the only good guys in gambling are the bookies.
Amazing how the money brings all of the politicians out from under the refrigerators.
Too bad Texas pols don't represent their citizens, but no state does, really.
Good luck CDI, even thought they are maggots themselves.
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10-15-2012, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by raybo
Lone Star is a very nice venue, but like many other tracks, they try to milk you with parking fees, entrance fees, programs, food and drink, individual TV consoles in the simulcast building, takeout, etc., etc..
I doubt I will ever visit any Texas track again. If I can't bet online, I'll either leave the state, or, I'll just quit playing the races and play more golf. It's that simple.
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Sounds like it's been awhile since you've darkened the door of the Whorehouse @ GP...Good for you!
For simo, no parking or admission fees. Live racing charges for admission, but not the Pavillion.
When the injuns took over they made the following changes>
spiffied up the joint a bit
added a "lounge" type of area w/ tables and monitors (dislike that greatly)
BIG negatives below
no more concession stand. It's all waitress driven, over priced fare. Food is good, but expensive. Want a tea or coke? Gotta wait for a waitress, comes at a price
Smoke is as bad as before
Very limited space
Stupid Sports Bar - smoky as hell, takes awhile if you want to order a beer....UFC is on the big screen most the time.
Overall they did a poor job, the long time employees told me they were not consulted by the new mngmnt.
I've been back this Fall once for QH racing, will go back when Los Al races become full again - usually mid Nov. But the place really is a disappointment.
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10-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wagergirl
I am listening to the CSR's around me. If someone from Texas calls in, the have to shut down their accounts. :-( Stupid for sure. But we are not going out and pulling all accts from Texas to shut them down (yet). That might change.
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Wwhich ADW do you work for??
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10-15-2012, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by precocity
cee jay and mr P.A . DONT THINK IM B.S. I LIVE IN TEXAS AND USE T.S. AND GOT a CALL from a person IN THE KNOW! don't know how it will play out but they are willing to go all the way to the supreme court if that's what it takes? and please don't ask my source! and a side note to legalise par mutual racing for texas residents to bet on texas tracks.will see.
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about 12 yrs ago Ladbrokes took the same stance. Texas AG did the same rain dance about ADW being illegal here, lot of sheepish ADW's closed down here.
I called Ladbrokes (12 yrs ago), I'll never forget the lady named Shirl. She told me they were standing firm, their lawyers knew the Texas law and were not closing shop here
Fast fwd 2 yrs.....Ladbrokes was bought out by Stronach, who wanted to buy LS....one of the stipulations the TXRC made for the purchase of LS was for Stronach's Xpressbet to pull out of TX...That happened post-haste. The day the paper had the headline of the LS sale we all got our notification from Xpressbet of checks being in the mail, accts closed
It's all a game...nothing more (shrug)
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10-16-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
about 12 yrs ago Ladbrokes took the same stance. Texas AG did the same rain dance about ADW being illegal here, lot of sheepish ADW's closed down here.
I called Ladbrokes (12 yrs ago), I'll never forget the lady named Shirl. She told me they were standing firm, their lawyers knew the Texas law and were not closing shop here
Fast fwd 2 yrs.....Ladbrokes was bought out by Stronach, who wanted to buy LS....one of the stipulations the TXRC made for the purchase of LS was for Stronach's Xpressbet to pull out of TX...That happened post-haste. The day the paper had the headline of the LS sale we all got our notification from Xpressbet of checks being in the mail, accounts closed
It's all a game...nothing more (shrug)
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yep I remember that but that was a texas ADW, why is TP accepting bets on texas tracks if you reside outside of texas? but if you live in texas you can not bet on texas tracks . so the texas tracks and horseman are still getting paid from out of state wagers. hopefully they can come to some sort of deal. don't make no sense of how much money there losing by doing that.
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10-16-2012, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by precocity
yep I remember that but that was a texas ADW, why is TP accepting bets on texas tracks if you reside outside of texas? but if you live in texas you can not bet on texas tracks . so the texas tracks and horseman are still getting paid from out of state wagers. hopefully they can come to some sort of deal. don't make no sense of how much money there losing by doing that.
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no I was wrong about landbroke I thought it was that mule track outside of fortworth tx. forgot that track name before lonestar shut them down..
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10-16-2012, 08:35 PM
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trinity meadows
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10-16-2012, 09:27 PM
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exactly right.. one of the first race tracks when they legalise it in texas..
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10-16-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by precocity
exactly right.. one of the first race tracks when they legalise it in texas..
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There has not been racing at Trinity Meadows in decades. There are only 3 tracks in Texas where racing takes place, Lone Star, Sam Houston, and Retama.
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10-21-2012, 03:44 AM
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There has not been racing at Trinity Meadows in decades. There are only 3 tracks in Texas where racing takes place, Lone Star, Sam Houston, and Retama.
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Trinity Meadows last raced in 1996.
Gillespie Fair also has a small meet. Probably not carried by your ADW but they do run down there.
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10-21-2012, 08:13 AM
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Certainly sounds to me like the only good guys in gambling are the bookies.
Amazing how the money brings all of the politicians out from under the refrigerators.
Too bad Texas pols don't represent their citizens, but no state does, really.
Good luck CDI, even thought they are maggots themselves.
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If they put the issue to a vote of the people, how do you think the voters of Texas vote?
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