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07-19-2023, 07:11 PM
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Anecdotally, it sure seems like younger people are dying more often...especially "stars" and "athletes"...since they are the ones who will make the news.
Of course, I could be totally wrong, and I'm sure I am
I'm sure everything is normal...in fact, better then normal...how can it not be? Trump is no longer president...so EVERYTHING is GREATER!
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07-19-2023, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901078/
Quote: The aim of this study is to define epidemiologic differences and the most common pathologies that cause nontraumatic sudden, natural death in people in the age group of 18-35 years. Identifying causes of sudden death in this age group is important for determining approaches for prevention.
We put forth that the main cause of sudden young adult death was cardiac (87.9%) in origin. Of these cardiac causes, ischemic etiology associated with atherosclerosis was the main reason for sudden young adult deaths. In order to reduce the incidence of sudden young adult deaths, major efforts should be directed to prevent atherosclerosis in this age group.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6565486/
Sudden death accounts for 180000 to 450000 deaths in the US yearly.
We estimated that approximately 67,390 SUDs (95% uncertainty interval: 45,655–89,408) occur annually among the adults ages 20–64 in the United States. The age and sex adjusted incidence rate for SUD among 20–64 years old was 35.1 per 100,000 (95% CI: 30.3–40.4). The rate among men was twice that of women (49.3 vs. 21.7 per 100,000). Three leading causes of death in adults 20–64 were all cancers combined, heart diseases, and unintentional injuries.
https://health-desk.org/articles/wha...death-syndrome
Vaccines have not been associated or linked to sudden death in adults or children in general. Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been associated in extremely rare cases following some vaccination efforts but cardiac issues following a COVID-19 diagnosis are common.
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Last edited by 46zilzal; 07-19-2023 at 07:16 PM.
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07-19-2023, 08:56 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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It's shocking how educated medical doctors are so willing to turn a blind eye...for a couple of extra bucks...
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07-19-2023, 09:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Cutter14
Where in the world did you see that it was covid-vaccine related---please enlighten me
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I tried reading the attached article very carefully...and still it seems that I missed the inference that this death was COVID vaccine-related.
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The article did not say, nor infer, that his death was Covid-vaccine related.
I said it was Covid-vaccine related.
The young man was a college student-athlete for a major Big 10 institution.
During the Covid crisis, these colleges mandated that the students, especially the athletes, take this dangerous vaccine.
In horse racing parlance it is 1-9 he was forced to take this Covid 19 vaccine. If he didn't, he would not have been able to play football.
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07-19-2023, 10:55 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's shocking how educated medical doctors are so willing to turn a blind eye...for a couple of extra bucks...
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This is an NIH article....COMPETENCE personified
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07-19-2023, 10:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by myohmyjustify
The article did not say, nor infer, that his death was Covid-vaccine related.
I said it was Covid-vaccine related.
The young man was a college student-athlete for a major Big 10 institution.
During the Covid crisis, these colleges mandated that the students, especially the athletes, take this dangerous vaccine.
In horse racing parlance it is 1-9 he was forced to take this Covid 19 vaccine. If he didn't, he would not have been able to play football.
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And this means to you that, since this young man was obviously "forced" to take the vaccine in order to play football...then in "horse racing parlance" it is 1-9 that it was the vaccine that caused his untimely death.
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07-19-2023, 11:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
https://health-desk.org/articles/wha...death-syndrome
Vaccines have not been associated or linked to sudden death in adults or children in general. Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been associated in extremely rare cases following some vaccination efforts but cardiac issues following a COVID-19 diagnosis are common.
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no mention in article or thread until you brought up SADS
so now the young men are dying from the myocarditis not because of the vaccination, but they actually caught COVID at some time?
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07-19-2023, 11:33 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
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that's not what was written...but whatever
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07-19-2023, 11:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,569
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
that's not what was written...but whatever
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You need help with your reading comprehension.
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07-19-2023, 11:53 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
You need help with your reading comprehension.
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I need help with a lot of things
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07-20-2023, 12:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I tried reading the attached article very carefully...and still it seems that I missed the inference that this death was COVID vaccine-related.
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You missed it because it wasn’t there. It was added, with no justification, by myohmyjustify.
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07-20-2023, 12:19 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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It's clear all these young people are dying from climate change.
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07-20-2023, 12:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by myohmyjustify
The article did not say, nor infer, that his death was Covid-vaccine related.
I said it was Covid-vaccine related.
The young man was a college student-athlete for a major Big 10 institution.
During the Covid crisis, these colleges mandated that the students, especially the athletes, take this dangerous vaccine.
In horse racing parlance it is 1-9 he was forced to take this Covid 19 vaccine. If he didn't, he would not have been able to play football.
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I know how to read and you are infering that he died because he took the covid vaccine--did you see his death certificate that stated that was the case?unless you have proof-your statement makes zero sense and that's not 1-9 that 100%
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07-20-2023, 12:32 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
This is an NIH article....COMPETENCE personified
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The article below is published on the NIH.gov site.
Cardiovascular Manifestation of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine in Adolescents:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9414075/
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ABSTRACT
This study focuses on cardiovascular manifestation, particularly myocarditis and pericarditis events, after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine injection in Thai adolescents. This prospective cohort study enrolled students aged 13–18 years from two schools, who received the second dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Data including demographics, symptoms, vital signs, ECG, echocardiography, and cardiac enzymes were collected at baseline, Day 3, Day 7, and Day 14 (optional) using case record forms. We enrolled 314 participants; of these, 13 participants were lost to follow-up, leaving 301 participants for analysis. The most common cardiovascular signs and symptoms were tachycardia (7.64%), shortness of breath (6.64%), palpitation (4.32%), chest pain (4.32%), and hypertension (3.99%). One participant could have more than one sign and/or symptom. Seven participants (2.33%) exhibited at least one elevated cardiac biomarker or positive lab assessments. Cardiovascular manifestations were found in 29.24% of patients, ranging from tachycardia or palpitation to myopericarditis. Myopericarditis was confirmed in one patient after vaccination. Two patients had suspected pericarditis and four patients had suspected subclinical myocarditis. In conclusion, Cardiovascular manifestation in adolescents after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination included tachycardia, palpitation, and myopericarditis. The clinical presentation of myopericarditis after vaccination was usually mild and temporary, with all cases fully recovering within 14 days. Hence, adolescents receiving mRNA vaccines should be monitored for cardiovascular side effects. Clinical Trial Registration: NCT05288231.
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2.3. Definition of Cardiovascular Manifestation
In this study, cardiovascular manifestation was defined as one or more of the following:
- Chest pain/pericarditis
- Dyspnea/orthopnea
- Palpitation
- Hypertension/hypotension
- Tachycardia/bradycardia
- Shock/cardiogenic shock
- Abnormal ECG or abnormal rhythm or ECG change
- Bundle branch block
- Decreased ejection fraction
- Diastolic dysfunction
- Elevation in at least one cardiac biomarker (troponin-T, CK-MB)/myocarditis
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In this study, 301 kids from two schools were examined by cardiologists after their second mRNA dose:
29 percent of the kids in the study were diagnosed with a "cardiovascular manifestation."
One kid was diagnosed with Myopericarditis.
Two kids had suspected Pericarditis.
Four kids had suspected Subclinical Myocarditis.
All of the kids diagnosed with a cardiovascular manifestation were treated by cardiologists, and all resolved.
There are other studies like this with similar results.
To the best of my knowledge no studies like this (where everyone was examined by cardiologists after mRNA vaccination) have been funded in the US.
Ask yourself "What if?"
What if even 1% of young people (instead of 29% from the study) develop cardiovascular manifestations after mRNA vaccination?
How many of those 1% are being examined by cardiologists?
None.
How many of those of those 1% go on to develop Myocarditis, feel just a little "off" because they're young, and don't seek treatment until it's too late?
The answer isn't zero.
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07-20-2023, 01:46 AM
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