Done with North American racing until they fix the past posting problem

[Pensacola Pete]

I just watched the 5th at Woodbine. The winner:

At off: 9/5
On far turn when battling another horse for the lead: 3/2
10 seconds after the race ended, with the horse winning easily: 6/5

Except that it wasn't CRW or simulcast money. The last flash had exactly $1,500 going in on #7 and no other money bet on any other horse.

I've sent the screen captures to UnitedTote, to Woodbine, to the Ontario Jockey Club, and to the Toronto Globe.

Any takers that nothing happens?

Eff this. I'm tired of money coming in after the race has been decided, and now I have the proof.

[Tom]

Can you post the screen shot here?
That would seem to be strong evidence of past-posting.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Pensacola Pete

I just watched the 5th at Woodbine. The winner:

At off: 9/5
On far turn when battling another horse for the lead: 3/2
10 seconds after the race ended, with the horse winning easily: 6/5

Except that it wasn't CRW or simulcast money. The last flash had exactly $1,500 going in on #7 and no other money bet on any other horse.

I've sent the screen captures to UnitedTote, to Woodbine, to the Ontario Jockey Club, and to the Toronto Globe.

Any takers that nothing happens?

Eff this. I'm tired of money coming in after the race has been decided, and now I have the proof.

you make a very compelling argument. but this is the way the game is, if you don't like what you see, you have the appropriate action under the circumstances.

welcome to horse race wagering

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Tom

Can you post the screen shot here?
That would seem to be strong evidence of past-posting.

he doesn't have to post it for me to see, i know there is plenty of it going on.

[thaskalos]

How can it be? Haven't several of our "well-connected" posters here told us that past-posting is an IMPOSSIBILITY?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

How can it be? Haven't several of our "well-connected" posters here told us that past-posting is an IMPOSSIBILITY?

So far, no evidence.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

he doesn't have to post it for me to see, i know there is plenty of it going on.

I'm still waiting for your video

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Pensacola Pete

I just watched the 5th at Woodbine. The winner:

At off: 9/5
On far turn when battling another horse for the lead: 3/2
10 seconds after the race ended, with the horse winning easily: 6/5

Except that it wasn't CRW or simulcast money. The last flash had exactly $1,500 going in on #7 and no other money bet on any other horse.

I've sent the screen captures to UnitedTote, to Woodbine, to the Ontario Jockey Club, and to the Toronto Globe.

Any takers that nothing happens?

Eff this. I'm tired of money coming in after the race has been decided, and now I have the proof.

Put the evidence up here. We'd all like to see it.

[Inner Dirt]

How often are the pools updated these days? Could it be the last update occurs after they leave the gate?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

So far, no evidence.

I've already seen cases where the winning horse's odds continue to decline even after the horse crosses the finish line...and so have you. Should it ever take more than a minute for the pre-race odds to adjust themselves?

[PaceAdvantage]

We're talking the racing industry.

Yes, it could be past posting, because, well, it's the racing industry...no confidence in high tech security.

On the other hand, yes, it could be a huge delay, because, well, it's the racing industry...no confidence on speedy updates using the latest hardware/software.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

We're talking the racing industry.

Yes, it could be past posting, because, well, it's the racing industry...no confidence in high tech security.

On the other hand, yes, it could be a huge delay, because, well, it's the racing industry...no confidence on speedy updates using the latest hardware/software.

"Well...it's the horse racing industry" is the sort of convenient excuse that the serious horseplayer should no longer tolerate...IMO.

[sjk]

I bet a horse yesterday that was 9-2 as they started loading, 7-2 crossing the finish line, went to 9-5 several minutes later and paid $5.80.

I don't believe it is past posting but it may put off betting LaD.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

"Well...it's the horse racing industry" is the sort of convenient excuse that the serious horseplayer should no longer tolerate...IMO.

Is it unreasonable to think that someone who is an expert in the high tech stuff that racing uses has found a way to exploit it?

I would like to see evidence of the racing industry's due diligence on the matter. Do they have a Failure Mode Analysis they could share with their customers?

Proving your security to your customers would seem to me to be a very reasonable request. Not doing so when rumors are flying would seem to be saying "Shut up and Bet!"

[AlsoEligible]

Should note that Amtote is the provider for Woodbine, not United Tote. May want to send it to them as well.